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Re: Covid -19

Post by oldfogey » Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:39 pm

It's going to be interesting to see how they manage the fixtures:

1. Bohs, Cork, Dundalk & Rovers have 13 games left, rest have 14
2. Bringing forward games to allow for Europe. We definitely play 18/19 August. Win and we play the following week. Lose and we have to wait until 17 September. EL teams play 25/26 August then same gap to 17 September.
3. Contrived finish. If ourselves and Rovers are as far ahead of the rest as everyone maintains, the home tie could become a winner take all. What are the odds it will get shifted to the end of October. Unless of course we are still in Europe, in which case everything is a problem as there are back to back Match Days at the end of Oct/beginning of November.
4. Playing on different days of the week. Somebody is going to end up with less recovery time than the opposition.

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Re: Covid -19

Post by Sneachta » Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:43 pm

Pepsi wrote:Would love to know what the other 4 options officially were and which 2 were the official remaining ones on offer. Seems a bit odd that Rovers were the only ones out of the 10 to vote with the first division clubs.

Lets see if they roll out streaming now for the 13 games and if so who will they use to do it. Have a feeling if it does go ahead, it will be the same model used in the trial last year by ourselves and Cork. Cannot see them coming up with something themselves after the shambles getting everything back up and running.
It's an example of the small minded politics of Irish soccer. They side with the first Division teams as they want to keep on their good side regarding their B team. Self interests of course sure it wouldn't be any different.

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Re: Covid -19

Post by oldfogey » Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:53 pm

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Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:10 pm
Would love to know what the other 4 options officially were and which 2 were the official remaining ones on offer. Seems a bit odd that Rovers were the only ones out of the 10 to vote with the first division clubs.
With the home win over us already in the bag, and a shortened season, I expect Rovers to focus 100% on winning the league. We have assembled a squad to win the league AND progress in Europe. Winning the league in 2020 is worth even more than €800k next year with the new Europe Conference. I expect they want us to have to face as many meaningful matches as possible while still working towards the EL group stages.

One thing is for sure, goals - both for and against - will be vital this year. If we beat Rovers and then match each other to the end, it will all come down to GD.

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Re: Covid -19

Post by El Paso » Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:26 pm

At least we've retained the normal relegation, which means eight teams will be in danger for most of the season and therefore it's highly unlikely either ourselves or Rovers will win every game.

Also what usually does for the other teams is the hectic April/May knackering their lighter squads, which won't be an issue this year. Whichever one of us ones it will still deserve it.

18 games in 12 months (which is what it will be by next February) is a disaster, however. I could see some clubs being in major financial bother. As it is the claim is that they can't afford to extend the season passed the original end date - and that seems to be regardless of whether or not fans are allowed back.

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Re: Covid -19

Post by Pepsi » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:23 pm

Sneachta wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:43 pm
It's an example of the small minded politics of Irish soccer. They side with the first Division teams as they want to keep on their good side regarding their B team. Self interests of course sure it wouldn't be any different.
Personally feel it is a thing of keeping old mates happy and showing who has power to prevent change for the good of all. Would be interesting to know if any of the board members are former friends of JD or his gang. The dogs on the street know Rovers chairman was mates with JD and many others on the FAI boards and committees. The very people who have held the LOI back for years to ensure their own interests were put first.

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Re: Covid -19

Post by niall_hearty2000 » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:30 pm

Why was a 13 game conclusion to the season the only option put on the table? Yet again we will have the longest close season in Europe. Are 500 fans allowed in to the games up to the beginning of September or are they behind closed doors? If it is 500 how do the clubs decide who those 500 are? And if it is behind closed doors it means clubs will have at most 8 games (4 at home 4 away) left to conclude the season. So season ticket holders will get 4 matches for their outlay. An extremely narrow minded decision from the powers that be. Then again it is the bare minimum requirement required from the FAI to ensure they have an international set up.
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Re: Covid -19

Post by El Paso » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:10 pm

Because the other clubs are broke and won’t commit to paying the players beyond the end of October.

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Re: Covid -19

Post by Pepsi » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:25 pm

Anyone know how Rovers pay for Tallaght?? Is it game by game, month by month (during season) or fixed price per season???

Find it odd that there were the only ones voting against the remaining 9 premier league clubs. Are they supporting the format to
1. Increase their chances to win the league and get CL football
2. To reduce costs with the shorter game plan

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Re: Covid -19

Post by Ezeikial » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:41 pm

Pepsi wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:23 pm
Sneachta wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:43 pm
It's an example of the small minded politics of Irish soccer. They side with the first Division teams as they want to keep on their good side regarding their B team. Self interests of course sure it wouldn't be any different.
Personally feel it is a thing of keeping old mates happy and showing who has power to prevent change for the good of all. Would be interesting to know if any of the board members are former friends of JD or his gang. The dogs on the street know Rovers chairman was mates with JD and many others on the FAI boards and committees. The very people who have held the LOI back for years to ensure their own interests were put first.
Are either of you guys Jim Corr?

Everything is not some sort of Machiavellian tin-foil hat conspiracy

Shamrock Rovers hardly have a whole pile of interest in the first division, nor about the well-being of John Delaney or former FAI board members - they certainly wanted to keep the benefit of their 3 point lead and crucially the shorter season is significantly in their favour
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Re: Covid -19

Post by Ezeikial » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:43 pm

Pepsi wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:25 pm
Anyone know how Rovers pay for Tallaght?? Is it game by game, month by month (during season) or fixed price per season???
It has been consistently reported that they have a licence with SDCC for up to 40 matches a season
It is the home venue for Shamrock Rovers FC who have a licence arrangement with South Dublin County Council to play a maximum of 40 soccer games during the League of Ireland season.
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Re: Covid -19

Post by Pepsi » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:51 pm

Rovers have a team in the first division........not exactly voted on upon entering. Seem to remember a dark shadow over the FAI agreeing to let them in
John Delaney is supposedly working for one of their shareholders in the UK
Chairman was very good mates with JD and co...walked in and out of Abbotstown as one of the lads, without checks as one journalist reported during JD saga

3 points....certainly their main reason...they desperately need CL income to justify their project and spending, the FAI need them as their poster boys.....ground, location....Irish owned

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Re: Covid -19

Post by Ezeikial » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:54 pm

Sligo Rover Secretay David Rowe on Newstalk suggesting that this saga has a bit to run yet, with lots of opposition and anger among PD clubs about what was announced today.
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Re: Covid -19

Post by Pepsi » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:58 pm

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/56 ... se-return/
Lee Powers also not a happy chappy.......

Would be interesting to hear from Martin or Bill on this one.

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Re: Covid -19

Post by Ezeikial » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:54 pm

James Rogers
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Niall Quinn confirmed that the FAI Cup will take place this season. The 8 quarter-finalists will complete the Cup after the league season has ended "and they will be rewarded for getting to that point, to help them financially for the remaining Cup matches and the longer season."

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Re: Covid -19

Post by Sneachta » Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:13 pm

There's a meeting at 9 tonight among premier Division clubs

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