UEFA Europa League 2018-19

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Re: UEFA Europa League 2018-19

Postby Ezeikial » Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:49 am



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Re: UEFA Europa League 2018-19

Postby DFCLife » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:55 pm

seand wrote: I had thought that all CL losers were kept together in their own half of the draw (ie Cork will play losers of Celtic /Rbk )

There’s the Champions path and the league path. Since neither Ajax nor Sturm Graz are champions of their own domestic league, they’re in the league path, as are Dundalk and Larnaca. Celtic, Cork and Rosenborg are in the Champions path as they’re the champions of their respective leagues.
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Re: UEFA Europa League 2018-19

Postby DFCLife » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:55 pm

Ezeikial wrote:
DFCLife wrote:We'll be playing the losers of that tie so it most likely will be Sturm Graz.


I love your optimism

*If we beat Larnaca, I forgot to add
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Re: UEFA Europa League 2018-19

Postby Ezeikial » Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:27 pm

Ajax 1 Sturm Graz 0 half time
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Re: UEFA Europa League 2018-19

Postby seand » Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:45 am

So, Sturm Graz await the winners. Just looking at the rankings this draw may actually have worked out very well for AEK/Dundalk.

*Coefficient anorak alert*

When Euro draws are done before the previous round is completed it is normally assumed that the higher ranked team will win, for the purpose of seeding. So Ajax/Sturm were seeded in the third qualifying round of the Champions League thanks to Ajax's high coefficient score of 53.5 (Sturm are at 6.57, just a little ahead of Dundalk on 5.5). However it looks like they losers of the Ajax/Sturm tie also carried the higher coefficient into the Europa League draw. I guess it would be unfair to saddle Ajax with Sturm's low coefficient if they had dropped into the EL. But this means that the losers of Ajax/Sturm effectively had a coefficient of 53.5 in the EL draw, meaning Sturm were seeded, when they certainly wouldn't have been using their own coefficient. It goes to show the random nature of the draws.

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Re: UEFA Europa League 2018-19

Postby Shoco » Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:47 pm

I see as alkmaar were knocked out by a team from Kazakhstan tonight

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Re: UEFA Europa League 2018-19

Postby Sneachta » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:41 pm

Spare a thought for fk Sarajevo who got thrashed 8-0 at HOME to Atalanta after a 2-2 draw in Italy. Some poor sides still left from Luxembourg (two teams) Lithuania and Wales. Have to take a deep breath after tonights disappointment

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Re: UEFA Europa League 2018-19

Postby Louth4sam » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:06 am

Sneachta wrote:Spare a thought for fk Sarajevo who got thrashed 8-0 at HOME to Atalanta after a 2-2 draw in Italy. Some poor sides still left from Luxembourg (two teams) Lithuania and Wales. Have to take a deep breath after tonights disappointment

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That's the frustration. As a seeded team we could have drawn a team we'd expect to beat but got absolutely screwed with the draws this year
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Re: UEFA Europa League 2018-19

Postby oldfogey » Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:33 pm

Larnaca have assemble a side probably good enough for regular group stage football, but it will take a few years for the coefficient to accumulate.

To be fair, we did it to Bate Borisov in 2016. We played well above our coefficient/seeding. You can be a "15 point" side and only have 3 or 4.

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Re: UEFA Europa League 2018-19

Postby El Paso » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:46 am

If we had got past Larnaca, we would have played Sturm Graz. If we had won that round, we *then* would have had to beat the winner of Feyenoord and Trencin of Slovakia just to reach the group stage. That's bonkers. That's punching above our weight for three two-legged ties in a row to even get to the party. They're letting far too many teams into the Europa League - 213 ffs!

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Re: UEFA Europa League 2018-19

Postby micls » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:26 am

El Paso wrote:If we had got past Larnaca, we would have played Sturm Graz. If we had won that round, we *then* would have had to beat the winner of Feyenoord and Trencin of Slovakia just to reach the group stage. That's bonkers. That's punching above our weight for three two-legged ties in a row to even get to the party. They're letting far too many teams into the Europa League - 213 ffs!

You were the seeded team in the last round though. It shouldn't have been punching above your weight, but ye got unlucky in the draw alright.

You're right though, it's almost impossible for an LOI team to get to the group stages via the EL now. It's made winning the league all the more important. For you, as a seeded team in the CL first round when ye get there, there's a very good chance with a half decent draw of making it. Win round 1 as the seeded team. Even if you lose round 2 you'd drop into EL round 3 as a seeded team. Win that and you're in the playoff round. Luck of the draw there but very doable depending on team.

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Re: UEFA Europa League 2018-19

Postby Sneachta » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:43 pm

AEK 2-0 up against sturam graz.

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Re: UEFA Europa League 2018-19

Postby El Paso » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:05 pm

Sneachta wrote:AEK 2-0 up against sturam graz.

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and away from home.

Linesman clobbered on the head with a bottle and split open. That should see Graz turfed out (hopefully).

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Re: UEFA Europa League 2018-19

Postby Sneachta » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:10 pm

I was wondering what the "int" stood for on live score. Interrupted obviously. Have you got a stream for the game? Much of a step up for Larnaca?

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Re: UEFA Europa League 2018-19

Postby El Paso » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:14 pm

No, there was a picture on twitter

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