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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by seand » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:27 pm

The 2019-20 calendar is in place now- you can see it on the wiki page. We're looking at playing midweek every week from 9/10 July for at least 4 weeks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%8 ... ons_League

And Bert Kassies, God bless him, has preliminary 2019-20 information up.
https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/

I reckon we've about a 1% chance of being seeded in the second qualifying round, but we'll need a shedload of results to go our way. Everyone start praying for a Rangers win in Scotland....



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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by dell1 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:42 pm

Delaney should get himself a job with the GAA for a while to get up to speed for when he joins UEFA on rooting at competitions, making draws as complex as they can, having committees for committees etc-GAA and UEFA as they made them they matched them!
*Add the NIFL pre-playoff, EL playoffs, and the possibility of an additional quarter final needed depending on cup winners/league position. If i've read it correctly there is the chance of 5 quarter finals?!

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by seand » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:18 am

Just on the European front, interesting to see BATE beat Arsenal last night in the Europa League knockouts. They are still primarily stocked with Belarussian players, and only a couple of their players have a significant number of caps for Belarus (who are still a couple of levels below a poor Ireland team). Shows what's possible.

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by seand » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:54 am

Maccabi Tel Aviv have officially joined the party, after winning the Israeli league with 8 games to spare! That was after a slow start.

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by seand » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:19 pm

Now things are getting a little interesting, with other leagues finishing up. Linfield and TNS are both in the first qualifying round draw. Linfield are ranked low enough that they're already guaranteed to be unseeded, so are potential opponents. TNS will almost certainly be seeded in the first qualifying round, with Dundalk.

Slovan Bratislava qualified too. They're ranked slightly below Dundalk but have enough coefficient points to be confident of being seeded too.

SEEDS
BATE, Astana, Maccabi, Sheriff, Rosenborg, HJK, Dundalk
And almost certainly: TNS, Slovan, AIK, Celtic, whoever wins in Cyprus, one of the Belgrade giants

NON SEEDS
Valur, Linfield, HB (Faroes), Riga, Saburtalo (Georgia), the preliminary round winners
And almost certainly: champions of Malta, Armenia, Montenegro, Nomme Kalju (Estonia)

and there's 10 or so countries that could go either way

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by dell1 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:48 am

It'd be interesting to see what the club would decide to do if drawn against Linfield. That fixture would surely be moved to Tallaght, any others you'd expect Oriel to suffice.

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by seand » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:28 am

dell1 wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:48 am
It'd be interesting to see what the club would decide to do if drawn against Linfield. That fixture would surely be moved to Tallaght, any others you'd expect Oriel to suffice.
Why would we move to Tallaght though? It'd probably be marginally easier to manage there from a security point of view, but you'd be losing a portion of home advantage and a lot of money. My preference would be to play them at Oriel, as we did in the Setanta in 2011.

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by oldfogey » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:31 am

seand wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:28 am
dell1 wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:48 am
It'd be interesting to see what the club would decide to do if drawn against Linfield. That fixture would surely be moved to Tallaght, any others you'd expect Oriel to suffice.
Why would we move to Tallaght though? It'd probably be marginally easier to manage there from a security point of view, but you'd be losing a portion of home advantage and a lot of money. My preference would be to play them at Oriel, as we did in the Setanta in 2011.
I believe the required allocation is 10% for away fans. Oriel will restrict Linfield to 300, but means the entire away section of 479 (plus the 100 seats in the stand) are knocked off the total, leaving us just over 2400. Tallaght's capacity is now around 8,000. 800 for them but we might pick up vocal support from any dubs who want to make a political point to our northern brethren.

CLQR1 legs are either side of the "12th", which could make it very interesting. Then there's young Mr O'Connor.......

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by El Paso » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:50 am

Despite Brexit, the DUP and Loyalist’s determination to make everything about flegs, it would be nice to think we could play Linfield and be above sectarian bullshit.

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by Ezeikial » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:48 pm

El Paso wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:50 am
Despite Brexit, the DUP and Loyalist’s determination to make everything about flegs, it would be nice to think we could play Linfield and be above sectarian bullshit.
The Setanta Cup meeting would suggest that it is possible.
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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by colymull » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:46 pm

Ezeikial wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:48 pm
El Paso wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:50 am
Despite Brexit, the DUP and Loyalist’s determination to make everything about flegs, it would be nice to think we could play Linfield and be above sectarian bullshit.
The Setanta Cup meeting would suggest that it is possible.

I seem to remember plenty of sectarian songs coming from the shed side at the home leg!!

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by dell1 » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:07 am

seand wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:28 am
dell1 wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:48 am
It'd be interesting to see what the club would decide to do if drawn against Linfield. That fixture would surely be moved to Tallaght, any others you'd expect Oriel to suffice.
Why would we move to Tallaght though? It'd probably be marginally easier to manage there from a security point of view, but you'd be losing a portion of home advantage and a lot of money. My preference would be to play them at Oriel, as we did in the Setanta in 2011.
My preference would be Oriel also. I can just see the fixture being moved, possibly a Gardai decision. CL would different than the Setanta Cup in terms of ticket demand, intensity of the tie with the lukewarm attitude from IL clubs to the Setanta Cup by the time we featured in it. Home is home but Tallaght has been good to us too as a home from home. I'd imagine there would be sufficient interest from neutral fans in Dublin that could close to sell out Tallaght that would offset costs. It would also reduce the frustration associated with the very limited ticket availability if played in Oriel. Its a 1 in what 17 chance so while it would be the ideal 1st round draw its not that likely!?

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by muppet » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:50 pm

The way UEFA group teams before the draw there is a very good chance ourselves and Linfield will be grouped together so that would make it a 1 in 5 chance.
I would be completely against moving any first round home leg to Tallaght, no matter who the opponents are. This will be the only game we play in Oriel in Europe so I don’t think it should be moved.

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by oldfogey » Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:35 pm

muppet wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:50 pm
The way UEFA group teams before the draw there is a very good chance ourselves and Linfield will be grouped together so that would make it a 1 in 5 chance.
I would be completely against moving any first round home leg to Tallaght, no matter who the opponents are. This will be the only game we play in Oriel in Europe so I don’t think it should be moved.
Oriel Park has been licensed for QR2 games in the past so I don't see any reason for that to change unless the criteria have been beefed up.

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by seand » Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:08 pm

Slovan Bratislava are in. They'll be ranked a fraction below Dundalk but high enough to be seeded. In the second qualifying round the mighty Dinamo Zagreb and PAOK will be waiting. The celebrations from PAOK's first league title win in 40 odd years are worth Googling.

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