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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by brodser » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:48 pm

3rd round draw line up. Some tasty ones there.

Champions path

Teams

Seeded
70.500 Ajax (NED)
31.000 Celtic (SCO) v 3.500 Nõmme Kalju (EST)
31.000 København (DEN) v 6.000 The New Saints (WAL)
29.500 GNK Dinamo (CRO) v 0.950 Saburtalo (GEO)
27.500 BATE Borisov (BLR) v 11.500 Rosenborg (NOR)
25.500 APOEL (CYP) v 3.000 Sutjeska (MNE)

Unseeded
23.500 PAOK (GRE)
22.000 Qarabağ (AZE) v 7.000 Dundalk (IRL)
18.500 Maribor (SVN) v 5.500 AIK (SWE)
16.750 Crvena zvezda (SRB) v 9.000 HJK Helsinki (FIN)
16.000 Maccabi Tel-Aviv (ISR) v 3.500 CFR Cluj (ROU)
4.250 Valletta (MLT) v 3.500 Ferencváros (HUN)



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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by colymull » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:06 pm

Its going to be Bate or Rosenberg again isn't it!!!

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by oldfogey » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:37 pm

El Paso wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:24 am
Full rotation for both cups or as close as possible. Let Gill take them and let Perth concentrate on Europe and League.
I think one or both will go.

Wed 31 July Qarabag v Dundalk
Sat 3 August Sligo v Dundalk
Mon 5 August Dundalk v Bohs
Tues/Wed 6-7 August QR3 CL OR
Thu 8 August QR3 EL
(unless we are well beaten at home, won't know which one for definite until after 31 July.
9-11 August Cobh Ramblers v Dundalk
Tue 13 August QR3 CL OR
Thu 15 August QR3 EL

That's 6 games in 16 days (or 14 if still in CL).
2 home games - Europe and a Cup semi
2 away games - Cobh & Sligo
2 away trips to Europe.

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by Ezeikial » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:14 pm

oldfogey wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:37 pm
El Paso wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:24 am
Full rotation for both cups or as close as possible. Let Gill take them and let Perth concentrate on Europe and League.
I think one or both will go.

Wed 31 July Qarabag v Dundalk
Sat 3 August Sligo v Dundalk
Mon 5 August Dundalk v Bohs
Tues/Wed 6-7 August QR3 CL OR
Thu 8 August QR3 EL
(unless we are well beaten at home, won't know which one for definite until after 31 July.
9-11 August Cobh Ramblers v Dundalk
Tue 13 August QR3 CL OR
Thu 15 August QR3 EL

That's 6 games in 16 days (or 14 if still in CL).
2 home games - Europe and a Cup semi
2 away games - Cobh & Sligo
2 away trips to Europe.
There is also a league match at home to Finn Harps on Fri 16 August to be re-fixed.

It's hard to see how the EA Sports semi final against Bohs on 5 August could possibly survive.

Ideally the Sligo league match on Sat 3 August will also be postponed
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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by oldfogey » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:03 pm

Ezeikial wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:14 pm
oldfogey wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:37 pm
El Paso wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:24 am
Full rotation for both cups or as close as possible. Let Gill take them and let Perth concentrate on Europe and League.
I think one or both will go.

Wed 31 July Qarabag v Dundalk
Sat 3 August Sligo v Dundalk
Mon 5 August Dundalk v Bohs
Tues/Wed 6-7 August QR3 CL OR
Thu 8 August QR3 EL
(unless we are well beaten at home, won't know which one for definite until after 31 July.
9-11 August Cobh Ramblers v Dundalk
Tue 13 August QR3 CL OR
Thu 15 August QR3 EL

That's 6 games in 16 days (or 14 if still in CL).
2 home games - Europe and a Cup semi
2 away games - Cobh & Sligo
2 away trips to Europe.
There is also a league match at home to Finn Harps on Fri 16 August to be re-fixed.

It's hard to see how the EA Sports semi final against Bohs on 5 August could possibly survive.

Ideally the Sligo league match on Sat 3 August will also be postponed
There is a tendency to hold onto the NEXT league game as a possible for the back end of the week in case a team gets knocked out. Corks game tomorrow night was always off, but Pat's v Bohs is down for this Sunday unless they pull a rabbit out tonight. Finn Harps will be the same.

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by Ezeikial » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:13 pm

oldfogey wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:03 pm
Ezeikial wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:14 pm
oldfogey wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:37 pm


I think one or both will go.

Wed 31 July Qarabag v Dundalk
Sat 3 August Sligo v Dundalk
Mon 5 August Dundalk v Bohs
Tues/Wed 6-7 August QR3 CL OR
Thu 8 August QR3 EL
(unless we are well beaten at home, won't know which one for definite until after 31 July.
9-11 August Cobh Ramblers v Dundalk
Tue 13 August QR3 CL OR
Thu 15 August QR3 EL

That's 6 games in 16 days (or 14 if still in CL).
2 home games - Europe and a Cup semi
2 away games - Cobh & Sligo
2 away trips to Europe.
There is also a league match at home to Finn Harps on Fri 16 August to be re-fixed.

It's hard to see how the EA Sports semi final against Bohs on 5 August could possibly survive.

Ideally the Sligo league match on Sat 3 August will also be postponed
There is a tendency to hold onto the NEXT league game as a possible for the back end of the week in case a team gets knocked out. Corks game tomorrow night was always off, but Pat's v Bohs is down for this Sunday unless they pull a rabbit out tonight. Finn Harps will be the same.
Even if the Finn Harps match stays in place for that weekend, it will almost certainly need to be re-fixed. Currently it is listed for Fri 16 Aug - it's a non-runner playing on a Friday after CL on Weds or EL on Thurs preceding it
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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by Sneachta » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:46 pm

If we lose to Qarabag, and Riga beat Piast, am I right in thinking, in true gaa back door scenario, we could meet again in the third round of the Europa League qualifiers?

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by oldfogey » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:22 am

Sneachta wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:46 pm
If we lose to Qarabag, and Riga beat Piast, am I right in thinking, in true gaa back door scenario, we could meet again in the third round of the Europa League qualifiers?

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I was going to trawl the UEFA website then I thought about the teams in the draw. Each of the 10 ties will have 4 potential outcomes when the draw is made Monday. They normally group these into pots of 5 of each seeded/unseeded. The computer might be able to keep potential clashes apart at this point, but its messy.

Obviously some of the unseeded pairings are very difficult but one of the sides exiting QR3 is going to draw the winners of

HB Torshavn v Linfield.

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by Ezeikial » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:12 pm

Daniel McDonnell piece in the Indo
'You look at Qarabag and that's what we want to achieve' - Dundalk chief Mike Treacy to learn from Euro opponent

Dundalk chairman Mike Treacy says that Champions League opponents Qarabag are an example that they want to follow.

Azerbaijan's top team have ascended the European ranks to become regular participants in group stage competition in the past five years, with four appearances in the Europa League and one in the Champions League.

They were in a group with Roma, Atletico Madrid and Chelsea on that adventure two years ago, and drew both encounters with Madrid.

Qarabag will be in Oriel Park next Wednesday, however, as they seek to advance in this year's competition.

Dundalk will be firm outsiders, but their American owners are viewing this tie as a learning experience as they hope to become regular contenders for group stage football.

It will be a costly journey too with early quotes for a charter flight to Baku coming in at around €150,000 which will eat into the extra €400,000 they secured for Wednesday’s dramatic penalty shootout success over Latvian champions Riga.

The prospect of a sell-out crowd for the first meeting with Qarabag will help of course, and Treacy is looking forward to seeing Dundalk rub shoulders with a team of that quality.

"You look at Qarabag and that's what we look at and what we want to achieve," said Treacy, speaking in the aftermath of an eventtful night in Riga.

"We want to look at Qarabag and where they were in 2012 and what did they do to get to where they are today.

"We’re looking forward to it. We probably won’t be favourites but our guys are so fearless and whenever they go out there, they think they can win."

The co-founder of Peak6, Matt Hulsizer, travelled to the first leg of the Riga tie and Treacy said that Dundalk’s ownership group was energised by the penalty shootout that provided a rollercoaster of emotions until Gary Rogers’ second stop gave Sean Hoare a chance to convert the winner.

"There were some nerves back in Chicago," said Treacy. "It was agonising, exhilarating, all back and forth in one night. It was madness."

Dundalk's opposition scout Stephen O’Donnell watched Qarabag defeat Albanian champions Partizani in Baku on Wednesday and is understood to have been very impressed by what he saw.

"One thing I do want to say is that we put so much into our preparation, our scouting and analytics and managing workloads," said Treacy. "It's that little bit which gives you a 1pc edge.

"We had Alex Rathke who does all the analytics on the League of Ireland, he did our penalty analysis for us and ran down to make sure everyone had it before the shootout.

"Again, whatever little edge you can get is the only way you can survive in Europe."

Treacy said he received congratulations from representatives of other clubs in the aftermath of the victory. He was part of the workshop at the FAI over the weekend which discussed the direction of the game here.

"We're all pulling for each other because we know where this league can go," he continued. "We have to block out the noise and work together, and do well in Europe and raise the profile of the league.

"I was the new guy in the room (in Abbotstown). I've only been involved 18 months and there were guys who have given their entire lives to Irish football across the 20 clubs.

"To get everyone in a room and all acknowledge that we need to change and work together...Noel Mooney did a great job. When I left that meeting there was a hint of optimism of where we’re going to go.

"We don’t know where that will be but wherever we go I think it’s going to be a positive for Irish football."

It is natural that some of Dundalk's domestic rivals would not be too enthused by their victory as it will help to strengthen their position at home.

They have won four out of the last five league titles and are eight points clear at the top of the table as the season enters its' final third.
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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by Ezeikial » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:55 am

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🇪🇺⚽️ The draws for the third round of the
@ChampionsLeague
and
@EuropaLeague
take place on Monday 22 July.

Our potential third round opponents are as follows... (1/4)


CHAMPIONS LEAGUE | If we win our 2nd QR tie with Qarabağ, we will play one of the following winners in round 3:

Ajax 🇳🇱
Celtic 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 v Nõmme Kalju 🇪🇪
København 🇩🇰 v The New Saints 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
GNK Dinamo 🇭🇷 v Saburtalo 🇬🇪
BATE Borisov 🇧🇾 v Rosenborg 🇳🇴
APOEL 🇨🇾 v Sutjeska 🇲🇪

(2/4)

EUROPA LEAGUE | If we fail to win our #UCL QR2 tie with Qarabağ, we will drop into #UEL QR3 & play one of the winners of:

Sarajevo 🇧🇦
Partizani 🇦🇱 / Sheriff Tiraspol 🇲🇩
Slovan Bratislava 🇸🇰 / Feronikeli 🇽🇰
FC Santa Coloma 🇦🇩 / Astana 🇰🇿
Shkëndija 🇲🇰 / Dudelange 🇱🇺

(3/4)

EUROPEAN DRAWS | Third round ties will be played on the following dates:

#UCL: 6/7 & 13/14 August 2019
#UEL: 8 & 15 August 2019

Stay tuned to #DundalkFC's social media channels on Monday morning for all the news from the draw.

FIN (4/4)

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by oldfogey » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:57 am

Champions League 3rd Round draw takes place at 12 noon (CEST) so 11.00am our time

Europa League (Champions Path) 3rd Round draw listed for 12.25 (CEST) or 11.25am our time

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by Ezeikial » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:09 am

APOEL 🇨🇾 v Sutjeska 🇲🇪 V Dundalk (or Qarabag)
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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by seand » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:10 am

APOEL/Sutjeska, away first. Not the most glamorous or the easiest to get to, but arguably the 'easiest' draw available

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by seand » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:23 am

Europa League draw to come in the next few minutes. Our grouping is horrible, we'll play one of these
Sarajevo (BIH)*
6 Partizani (ALB) / Sheriff Tiraspol (MDA)
7 Slovan Bratislava (SVK) / Feronikeli (KOS)
8 FC Santa Coloma (AND) / Astana (KAZ)
9 Shkëndija (MKD) / Dudelange (LUX)

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Re: 2019-20 UEFA Champions League

Post by Sneachta » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:26 am

I wouldn't fear any of those apart from Bratislava and the journey to Astana

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