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Re: 2020-21 UEFA Champions League

Post by Ezeikial » Sat May 16, 2020 10:23 am

The question of how the early stages of the two main European club competitions will be completed is expected to be addressed when Uefa meets on May 27th
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Re: 2020-21 UEFA Champions League

Post by Ezeikial » Mon May 18, 2020 9:46 pm

UEFA Executive Committee meeting postponed to 17 June

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Re: 2020-21 UEFA Champions League

Post by Ezeikial » Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:42 pm

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#DundalkFC has been awarded a UEFA License for the 2020-21 UEFA club competition season.

As reigning SSE Airtricity League champions, we will be entered into the UEFA Champions League.

A huge word of thanks to Licensing Officer @SimonBlackmore for his efforts.
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Re: 2020-21 UEFA Champions League

Post by Ezeikial » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:05 pm

Single match qualifications in Champions League
With the 2019/20 season now mapped out, the picture for next season is becoming clearer. Here's what we know so far.

What are the changes?

* With the 2019/20 season now scheduled to finish on 23 August, the principal change to the 2020/21 calendar is that everything is now a little later. Qualifying, which had been due to begin on 23 June, will now kick off on 8 August, with the group stage draw in Athens on 1 October and the competition proper getting under way on 20 October. The knockout stages will be unchanged from the original schedule.

* All qualifying ties will be single-leg matches before reverting to home and away fixtures for the play-offs.

* The final will take place at Istanbul's Atatürk Olympic Stadium, which had been due to stage the 2020 decider. Saint Petersburg, the prospective 2021 host, will now stage the 2022 event.

When will matches take place?
Qualifying
08/08/2020–11/08/2020 Preliminary round
18/08/2020–19/08/2020 First qualifying round
25/08/2020–26/08/2020 Second qualifying round
15/09/2020–16/09/2020 Third qualifying round
22/09/2020–30/09/2020 Play-offs

Group stage
20/10/2020–21/10/2020 Matchday 1
27/10/2020–28/10/2020 Matchday 2
03/11/2020–04/11/2020 Matchday 3
24/11/2020–25/11/2020 Matchday 4
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Re: 2020-21 UEFA Champions League

Post by Ezeikial » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:09 pm

Daniel McDonnell reporting
No cut to Euro cash for LOI clubs. Same as 2019. Teams drawn away will be compensated in some way

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Re: 2020-21 UEFA Champions League

Post by Quayman » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:22 pm

Have we any light with regards where we are in the seeding classification yet?
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Re: 2020-21 UEFA Champions League

Post by Ezeikial » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:25 pm

Quayman wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:22 pm
Have we any light with regards where we are in the seeding classification yet?
According to seand last October we are guaranteed seeding in the first qualifying round
seand wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:01 pm
To be honest I can't see any way we'll be seeded in the second round (it's not impossible but very unlikely)

Definitely seeded in first qualifying round
Moldova- Sheriff 12.750
Ireland- Dundalk 8.500
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Re: 2020-21 UEFA Champions League

Post by oldfogey » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:56 am

Ezeikial wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:25 pm
Quayman wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:22 pm
Have we any light with regards where we are in the seeding classification yet?
According to seand last October we are guaranteed seeding in the first qualifying round
seand wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:01 pm
To be honest I can't see any way we'll be seeded in the second round (it's not impossible but very unlikely)

Definitely seeded in first qualifying round
Moldova- Sheriff 12.750
Ireland- Dundalk 8.500
The cutoff point for Round 2 last year was around 16. There were 4 unseeded clubs above 8.5 (our current coefficient) so it's highly unlikely that there would be enough of a change. The system also works against us as "bolters" who win their own league get seeded according to 25% of the Country figure, if higher.

Omonia Nicosia are Cypriot champions this year with a coefficient of 3.5. The national figure is 24.925. A quarter of that is 6.23, enough to see them seeded. Especially important as Cyprus dropped one place so they enter CL in QR1. On the other hand it is good for us as you don't want some dark horse lurking on the unseeded side of the draw. (like us in 2016). You could argue that RIGA - who were a new amalgamation of clubs and have no "history" - are a lot stronger than their coefficient suggests.
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Re: 2020-21 UEFA Champions League

Post by Ezeikial » Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:50 am

Vinny Perth quoted in a Paul O'Hehir article in the Mirror:
“The four European clubs should put rivalries to one side and play friendlies against one another, even on Friday nights.

“We have to help each other. Clubs in the North are another possibility as they’ll be returning and will have European games of their own.

“We may have to look at some games in the UK as well because everything is changing so rapidly.

“It’s not ideal and there’s no perfect scenario but you need five or six games of a certain level. This is Champions League football and we have to be ready.”
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Re: 2020-21 UEFA Champions League

Post by seand » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:50 pm

oldfogey wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:56 am
Ezeikial wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:25 pm
Quayman wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:22 pm
Have we any light with regards where we are in the seeding classification yet?
According to seand last October we are guaranteed seeding in the first qualifying round
seand wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:01 pm
To be honest I can't see any way we'll be seeded in the second round (it's not impossible but very unlikely)

Definitely seeded in first qualifying round
Moldova- Sheriff 12.750
Ireland- Dundalk 8.500
The cutoff point for Round 2 last year was around 16. There were 4 unseeded clubs above 8.5 (our current coefficient) so it's highly unlikely that there would be enough of a change. The system also works against us as "bolters" who win their own league get seeded according to 25% of the Country figure, if higher.

Omonia Nicosia are Cypriot champions this year with a coefficient of 3.5. The national figure is 24.925. A quarter of that is 6.23, enough to see them seeded. Especially important as Cyprus dropped one place so they enter CL in QR1. On the other hand it is good for us as you don't want some dark horse lurking on the unseeded side of the draw. (like us in 2016). You could argue that RIGA - who were a new amalgamation of clubs and have no "history" - are a lot stronger than their coefficient suggests.
This really isn't an issue for us. As you say Omonia will have a healthy coefficient (5.350 actually), but that's less than Dundalk. Indeed any suprise champion from any league as high as Belgium would get a coefficent lower than Dundalk's 8.500- and the Belgian champions are straight into the group phase!

Safe to say we'll be seeded in the first qualifying round and not the second. The luck of the draw is immense this season with just one leg as far as the playoff. It's massively worrying that the FAI and the league are WAY behind every other country- we'll be lucky to have a couple of league games behind us before the CL starts.

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Re: 2020-21 UEFA Champions League

Post by Sneachta » Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:12 pm

The only advantage would be that we are a professional set up and would be much fitter than our amateur counterparts from the 80s/90s era going into European matches. But yes we will still be well off the pace where we should be going into Europe

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Re: 2020-21 UEFA Champions League

Post by Ezeikial » Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:41 pm

I'm afraid being fitter then players from the Terry Flanagan era doesn't cut much ice with our chances this season

In more recent years we have had the advantage of being in-season while many other leagues were in pre-season - that advantage could actually be reversed this season. I have no doubt that the management teams will be doing everything possible to try to maximise fitness of the players.

The biggest factor for QR1 will probably be simply be the luck of the draw - who we get and whether we are at home or have to travel
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Re: 2020-21 UEFA Champions League

Post by seand » Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:09 pm

This has really sneaked up on me. The lack of an opportunity for a trip to Latvia or Iceland may have dampened my obsession! Anyway, we now know a lot more about potential opponents. We will be seeded in round 1:
SEEDS
Celtic Sco 34.000
FK Astana Kaz 29.000
Ludogorets Razgrad Bul 26.000
Red Star Belgrade Srb 22.750
Qarabag FK Azb 21.000
Maccabi Tel-Aviv Isr 16.500
Molde FK Nor 15.000
Sheriff Tiraspol Mol 12.750
Ferencváros Hun 9.000
Dundalk Irl 8.500
Slovan Bratislava Svk 7.000
Suduva Marijampole Lit 6.750

NON SEEDS
Buducnost Podgorica Mon 4.250
Flora Tallinn Est 4.000
Dynamo Brest Bls 3.775
Riga FC Lat 3.500
Connah's Quay Wal 3.250
Europa FC Gib 2.750
KI Klaksvik Far 2.750
KR Reykjavik Isl 2.500
KuPS Kuopio Fin 2.500
Sileks Kratovo Mac 1.475
Floriana Mlt 1.150
Preliminary round winners (possibly Linfield)

SEEDING TO BE FINALISED
Omonia Nicosia Cyp 5.350
CS Fola Esch Lux 4.750
FK Sarajevo Bos 4.750
Dinamo Tbilisi Geo 4.750
Djurgårdens IF Swe 4.550
Champions of Slovenia, Poland, Romania, Albania, Armenia

I'd guess there's a reasonable chance the usual semi-regional groupings will be observed- so we might be likely to be grouped with Flora, Riga, Connahs Quay, Klaksvik, KuPS and possibly Djurgardens- one to avoid for sure. As usual Wales and the Faroes would be good. A home draw would be a massive advantage.

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Re: 2020-21 UEFA Champions League

Post by seand » Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:12 pm

I assume the second round draw will be done before the first round is completed, seeing as they are only one week apart. We will be unseeded in this draw and it will be completely open, with no regionalisation (hello Qarabag!). So in the second round the Danish and Swiss champions would join the 18 first round winners.

I think if the Champions League winners also qualify via their league position that opens up one more space in the groups, with the trickle down effect that the Cypriot and Serbian champions are bumped straight into round 2 and the Swiss champions straight into round 3.

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Re: 2020-21 UEFA Champions League

Post by oldfogey » Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:46 pm

seand wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:12 pm
I assume the second round draw will be done before the first round is completed, seeing as they are only one week apart. We will be unseeded in this draw and it will be completely open, with no regionalisation (hello Qarabag!). So in the second round the Danish and Swiss champions would join the 18 first round winners.

I think if the Champions League winners also qualify via their league position that opens up one more space in the groups, with the trickle down effect that the Cypriot and Serbian champions are bumped straight into round 2 and the Swiss champions straight into round 3.
CL QR1 Draw 8th August
CL QR2 Draw 9th August

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