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Re: Covid -19

Post by Ezeikial » Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:27 am

Several Premier Division clubs have considered boycotting the SSE Airtricity League following the decision to resume on July 31 with the existing format in place.
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Re: Covid -19

Post by Ezeikial » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:17 pm

Article and video from Vinny Perth's interview on last night's OTB

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Re: Covid -19

Post by Ezeikial » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:31 pm

Following a meeting of the FAI board this morning, it was agreed to not ratify the LOI restart now but carry out a review of the process, with a decision due by the end of this week
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Re: Covid -19

Post by Carrick_Road » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:57 pm

This is getting ridiculous now

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Re: Covid -19

Post by oldfogey » Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:23 pm

Carrick_Road wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:57 pm
This is getting ridiculous now
And we haven't even got to the "Backstop" yet where a club (or more) either takes a legal challenge, or refuses to play. Waterford have still not returned to training so I can see them claiming that they won't be fit to play on 31st July and want to delay. It may well be that Lee Power has no intention of staying but wants to try and blame everyone else. This possible scenario might also explain why the Premier Division clubs don't want the current proposed format. Neither Sligo nor Cork have played Waterford yet, so they would end up with 2 less games to play in trying to get away from the playoff spot.

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Re: Covid -19

Post by El Paso » Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:24 pm

This isn’t really our bunfight, thank God. Doubt we care too much if one or two go down once there’s relegation of some description. The 18 matches thing is what’s bad from our perspective.

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Re: Covid -19

Post by oldfogey » Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:41 pm

There's no doubt Rovers are trying to engineer a scenario to aid them in winning the league. That old cliche "it's in our own hands" was never more true. In order to win the league on goal difference, we need to beat Rovers in Oriel, and then match their results to the end of the season, while scoring more/conceding less. Meeting a team with something to play for almost every week, makes our task all the more difficult.

On the other hand, the animosity towards Rovers is really ramping up. There are reports that last night's Premier Club Alliance conference call couldn't start until they replaced their representative (the same guy who is on the NLEC, and voted with the First Division clubs yesterday). A bit of extra motivation perhaps for clubs meeting them this season.

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Re: Covid -19

Post by Sneachta » Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:01 pm

Ezeikial wrote:
Pepsi wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:23 pm
Sneachta wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:43 pm
It's an example of the small minded politics of Irish soccer. They side with the first Division teams as they want to keep on their good side regarding their B team. Self interests of course sure it wouldn't be any different.
Personally feel it is a thing of keeping old mates happy and showing who has power to prevent change for the good of all. Would be interesting to know if any of the board members are former friends of JD or his gang. The dogs on the street know Rovers chairman was mates with JD and many others on the FAI boards and committees. The very people who have held the LOI back for years to ensure their own interests were put first.
Are either of you guys Jim Corr?

Everything is not some sort of Machiavellian tin-foil hat conspiracy

Shamrock Rovers hardly have a whole pile of interest in the first division, nor about the well-being of John Delaney or former FAI board members - they certainly wanted to keep the benefit of their 3 point lead and crucially the shorter season is significantly in their favour
Are you having a laugh? You've been following this debacle like the rest of us.

Of course.... All clubs are in this together. Band of brothers! Team effort...yadayadayada! Self interests left right and centre. Embarrassing the whole thing

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Re: Covid -19

Post by Pepsi » Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:21 pm

oldfogey wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:23 pm
Carrick_Road wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:57 pm
This is getting ridiculous now
And we haven't even got to the "Backstop" yet where a club (or more) either takes a legal challenge, or refuses to play. Waterford have still not returned to training so I can see them claiming that they won't be fit to play on 31st July and want to delay. It may well be that Lee Power has no intention of staying but wants to try and blame everyone else. This possible scenario might also explain why the Premier Division clubs don't want the current proposed format. Neither Sligo nor Cork have played Waterford yet, so they would end up with 2 less games to play in trying to get away from the playoff spot.
The FAI cannot afford a legal battle at thsi stage........can you imagine where they would find the money for it???? Ring Peak6 and ask for a loan to fight them in court!!! Can you imagine the brown stripes in their yfronts if Bill walked into Abbotstown to announce they were taking the FAI to court and making everything public. At this point it seems the only club who have not critisied JD or the FAI in the last 12 months and have profited most from the old FAI are the ones who are benifiting most from all of this......their love child in Tallaght. Is it coincidence or pie in the sky stuff.....

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Re: Covid -19

Post by Sneachta » Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:41 pm

Throw Waterford into the mix there Andrea while you're at it. Sharon's got the kettle on.

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Re: Covid -19

Post by Ezeikial » Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:33 pm

THE SAGA THAT has become of efforts to restart the League of Ireland season has taken another twist, as Premier Division Clubs have called for an investigation into the process that led to an agreement that the season resume with two clubs in danger of relegation.

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Re: Covid -19

Post by niall_hearty2000 » Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:39 am

Ezeikial wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:33 pm
THE SAGA THAT has become of efforts to restart the League of Ireland season has taken another twist, as Premier Division Clubs have called for an investigation into the process that led to an agreement that the season resume with two clubs in danger of relegation.

https://www.the42.ie/league-of-ireland- ... 5-Jul2020/
Bottom line is that if clubs aren't prepared to finish the entire season for fear of financial difficulties with contracts or players refusing to sign contract extensions then they have to reduce the games. Although that is why the FAI are giving the clubs financial support. EPL clubs had to get players to sign contract extensions knowing some players would be leaving their club at the end of it. I don't think the reduced 13 games is fair as clubs aren't starting on a level playing field. If they are counting the first 5 games then they should really be finishing the entire campaign like they have in England. And if it is only 2 rounds of games (13 matches) then they should really be starting the league from scratch and play a full 2 rounds of 18 games.
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Re: Covid -19

Post by Shoco » Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:35 am

oldfogey wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:41 pm
There's no doubt Rovers are trying to engineer a scenario to aid them in winning the league. That old cliche "it's in our own hands" was never more true. In order to win the league on goal difference, we need to beat Rovers in Oriel, and then match their results to the end of the season, while scoring more/conceding less. Meeting a team with something to play for almost every week, makes our task all the more difficult.

On the other hand, the animosity towards Rovers is really ramping up. There are reports that last night's Premier Club Alliance conference call couldn't start until they replaced their representative (the same guy who is on the NLEC, and voted with the First Division clubs yesterday). A bit of extra motivation perhaps for clubs meeting them this season.
A lot of tinfoil hats on here, Are we ignoring the bit that this is what Dundalk agreed to? they didn't have to.

Also we may have to play 13 games against teams with something to play for, but so do Rovers, so that makes their task just equally as difficult

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Re: Covid -19

Post by oldfogey » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:34 pm

Shoco wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:35 am
oldfogey wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:41 pm
There's no doubt Rovers are trying to engineer a scenario to aid them in winning the league. That old cliche "it's in our own hands" was never more true. In order to win the league on goal difference, we need to beat Rovers in Oriel, and then match their results to the end of the season, while scoring more/conceding less. Meeting a team with something to play for almost every week, makes our task all the more difficult.

On the other hand, the animosity towards Rovers is really ramping up. There are reports that last night's Premier Club Alliance conference call couldn't start until they replaced their representative (the same guy who is on the NLEC, and voted with the First Division clubs yesterday). A bit of extra motivation perhaps for clubs meeting them this season.
A lot of tinfoil hats on here, Are we ignoring the bit that this is what Dundalk agreed to? they didn't have to.

Also we may have to play 13 games against teams with something to play for, but so do Rovers, so that makes their task just equally as difficult
1. Dundalk didn't agree to this. 9 of the PD club voted for 1 up/1 down. Rovers - along with the FD clubs - voted 2 up/2 down.


2. I would disagree that their task is equally difficult. Leaving aside the question of how many sides may have something to play for, Rovers are 3 points ahead. If they draw in Oriel then winning the league is outside of our control. We have to win that game to give ourselves a chance. Having to chase the game can easily result in defeat, leaving the league effectively over. If the positions were reversed we would be feeling very confident.

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Re: Covid -19

Post by Shoco » Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:22 pm

oldfogey wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:34 pm
Shoco wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:35 am
oldfogey wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:41 pm
There's no doubt Rovers are trying to engineer a scenario to aid them in winning the league. That old cliche "it's in our own hands" was never more true. In order to win the league on goal difference, we need to beat Rovers in Oriel, and then match their results to the end of the season, while scoring more/conceding less. Meeting a team with something to play for almost every week, makes our task all the more difficult.

On the other hand, the animosity towards Rovers is really ramping up. There are reports that last night's Premier Club Alliance conference call couldn't start until they replaced their representative (the same guy who is on the NLEC, and voted with the First Division clubs yesterday). A bit of extra motivation perhaps for clubs meeting them this season.
A lot of tinfoil hats on here, Are we ignoring the bit that this is what Dundalk agreed to? they didn't have to.

Also we may have to play 13 games against teams with something to play for, but so do Rovers, so that makes their task just equally as difficult
1. Dundalk didn't agree to this. 9 of the PD club voted for 1 up/1 down. Rovers - along with the FD clubs - voted 2 up/2 down.


2. I would disagree that their task is equally difficult. Leaving aside the question of how many sides may have something to play for, Rovers are 3 points ahead. If they draw in Oriel then winning the league is outside of our control. We have to win that game to give ourselves a chance. Having to chase the game can easily result in defeat, leaving the league effectively over. If the positions were reversed we would be feeling very confident.
Dundalk agreed to 18 games, even rovers said they would prefer longer but they agreed to 18.
Infact if they had to vote for a straight 1 up and 1 down it would have made it easier for them as the lower teams will have less to play for.

I would consider it a difficult task for them coming to oriel to play us, so yes their task is just as difficult.

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