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Post by niall_hearty2000 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:30 pm

And how much would sacking magilton cost us? Has he 3 yrs left on his 100k a year deal? He shouldnt have been hired on a 4 yr deal on tgat salary but the fact he was means we can't just terminate it.
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Post by Bob Prole » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:03 pm

niall_hearty2000 wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:30 pm And how much would sacking magilton cost us? Has he 3 yrs left on his 100k a year deal? He shouldnt have been hired on a 4 yr deal on tgat salary but the fact he was means we can't just terminate it.
How much is all this costing us anyway? It WAS their investment. If they messed up in hiring Magilton it’s on them to suck that up and deal with it. It’s not like they struggled to get rid of countless others

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Post by southerncomfort » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:20 pm

Bob Prole wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:03 pm
niall_hearty2000 wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:30 pm And how much would sacking magilton cost us? Has he 3 yrs left on his 100k a year deal? He shouldnt have been hired on a 4 yr deal on tgat salary but the fact he was means we can't just terminate it.
How much is all this costing us anyway? It WAS their investment. If they messed up in hiring Magilton it’s on them to suck that up and deal with it. It’s not like they struggled to get rid of countless others
there's a misconception that ending an X year contract costs X year's pay .

It's always a possibility I suppose

But most LOI non player football contracts have a clause that deal with end of relationship .... could be substantial / might not be etc. more likely a good length notice period ... haven't seen one in a few years but I'm v sure of this

jm may be a good person to stay / or may not be .. . but staying under the radar is definitely not fan Interest - there should be a good level of scrutiny based on the chatter about his input into 2021 club / team matters
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Post by dundalkfc1903 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:20 pm

It's not necessarily the case that just because he's on a 4 year fixed term contract that the final 3 years has to be paid up. It's depends on the terms. A takeover may create a redundancy situation in which case he would get sweet FA as he's been employed for less than a year.

Anyway rumour mill in overdrive today with medical team leaving the club, Vinny off to shels and tonight could be his last game in charge! Mad stuff, who knows what's true.

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Post by Quayman » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:23 pm

Entire medical department gone over the weekend. All confirmed this morning by various avenues. Perth linked with shels job
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Post by oldfogey » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:24 pm

Bob Prole wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:03 pm
niall_hearty2000 wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:30 pm And how much would sacking magilton cost us? Has he 3 yrs left on his 100k a year deal? He shouldnt have been hired on a 4 yr deal on tgat salary but the fact he was means we can't just terminate it.
How much is all this costing us anyway? It WAS their investment. If they messed up in hiring Magilton it’s on them to suck that up and deal with it.
In any normal takeover the purchaser decides which staff are transferred to the new company. It's highly unlikely that the shares change hands if it's on private ownership.

With a football club you have to take the players/backroom staff. If you intend paying someone off the price is adjusted. Any new owners can say they don't want a particular staff member and it's up to the current owners to pay him off. That person just becomes a number which forms part of the negotiations over the final selling price. The alternative way is to transfer the person in order to maximise absorption of their knowledge base. The cost of paying him off has already been factored into the purchase price.

There is always a trade off between the benefits of a smoother transition, and the unquantifiable damage that could be caused. I've been involved on both sides of the table, and the outcome depends on how you approach it. Identifying weak points early on can help prevent them turning into a crisis.

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Post by Bob Prole » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:36 pm

I wanna say something

The current shambles is 100% on the owners. They’re in charge. They make all the decisions. They have allowed the club to collapse to the point a terminal rot is setting in. It’s not the fault of ex staff or journalists or podcasts or fans or players or Filippo or Vinny or the FAI or the county council. It’s on them. 100% on them.

However. There are bad actors involved in the club now. Bad people who don’t give a shit about it and are only involved for their own benefit. And our club is dying as a result. These people need to be dragged out of the place for good by whoever owns us when all this is over… that’s unless they’re directly involved in the takeover of course

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Post by Martin Lawlor80 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:38 pm

Sure the new owners are apparently either John Usher or Mags Byrne right?
One of those set up a company the represents JM right?
So I’m presume if she takes over JM is staying put. Is he the one who got rid of the medical Dept?

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Post by BigChief » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:57 pm

Such a bizarre day..Staff leaving & talks that a takeover is near complete would indicate to me that there is also a problem person in oriel & not just america.
Hopefully Vinny actually answers some questions after the game tonight and less of the " to much noise around the club" stuff..
Lots of noise yet us fans don't hear a peep from the chairman/sporting Director/owners.

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Post by oldfogey » Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:38 pm

May be something or nothing.

Ian Morris has told Shelbourne that he is leaving after Friday's game.

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Post by niall_hearty2000 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:00 pm

Martin Lawlor80 wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:38 pm Sure the new owners are apparently either John Usher or Mags Byrne right?
One of those set up a company the represents JM right?
So I’m presume if she takes over JM is staying put. Is he the one who got rid of the medical Dept?
If Mags Byrne own first for players which are agents for players then wouldn't that mean she couldn't own a football club? Conflict of interests or whatever?
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Post by Hull White » Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:41 pm

niall_hearty2000 wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:00 pm
Martin Lawlor80 wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:38 pm Sure the new owners are apparently either John Usher or Mags Byrne right?
One of those set up a company the represents JM right?
So I’m presume if she takes over JM is staying put. Is he the one who got rid of the medical Dept?
If Mags Byrne own first for players which are agents for players then wouldn't that mean she couldn't own a football club? Conflict of interests or whatever?
Since when has integrity ever played a part in League of Ireland or FAI affairs. Byrne will just bung them a brown envelope and everything will be grand to coin a phrase. PS, what did I say about Magilton before he even had a day at Oriel, grade one wanker QED. Really sad tonight but Dundalk are my team no matter what chancer is in charge, God help me!

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Post by Alrightourfella » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:21 pm

Vinny is about to be sacked following an investigation about his behaviour at the club. Two other members have left the club this week already including the 3 that walked away last week was to distance themselves from the investigation and to protect their own professions outside of the club.

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Post by dundalkfc1903 » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:28 pm

Hahaha madness if true. Gotta laugh at this stage. Wild

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Post by oldfogey » Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:08 pm

Alrightourfella wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:21 pm Vinny is about to be sacked following an investigation about his behaviour at the club. Two other members have left the club this week already including the 3 that walked away last week was to distance themselves from the investigation and to protect their own professions outside of the club.
One persons investigation is another persons witch hunt. What's the charge? "Conduct unbecoming" or deciding he had had enough sh1t from the person trying to destroy the club from the inside. Nobody is going to believe them.

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