Rumours/Transfers/Renewals 2017

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Re: Rumours/Transfers/Renewals 2017

Postby Johnny Guitar » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:44 pm

Terrific news. Just made my day


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Re: Rumours/Transfers/Renewals 2017

Postby condor » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:51 pm

That's brilliant news, now he can start to rebuild in the long term. Delighted!

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Re: Rumours/Transfers/Renewals 2017

Postby Ezeikial » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:26 pm

Perhaps a 2018 version of this thread is needed.

Here is something of a non-story in the Demo about Niclas Vemmelund:

1) SK offers Vemmelund a contract

2) His agent tweets to fish for other offers

3) Demo concludes he might not be here next season, if gets and accepts another offer


http://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/news/nati ... ndalk.html
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Re: Rumours/Transfers/Renewals 2017

Postby dundalkfc1903 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:19 am

Given Nicos comments last year when leaving Derry I don't think we can expect him to be the most loyal of players.

It would be a huge boost to have him signed up for next year. Not holding my breath. Smashing player.

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Re: Rumours/Transfers/Renewals 2017

Postby mike » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:29 pm

We need to be looking at 2 year deals for the better players. The 52 week contract thing was also mentioned by Daniel McD in the Indo last week when he ran a piece on Kenny’s new deal, as one of things Dundalk were considering for next year.

That would be an interesting move if it ever came into force, very progressive too.

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Re: Rumours/Transfers/Renewals 2017

Postby Ezeikial » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:40 pm

mike wrote:We need to be looking at 2 year deals for the better players. .


The club have been offering 2 year deals to some players over the last 4 years. Longer deals are the norm elsewhere and 3 year deals would be appropriate for some, particularly emerging 20 - 22 year old
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Re: Rumours/Transfers/Renewals 2017

Postby bigalan » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:08 am

If it only was as simple as offering longer deals, we can offer but.......

Any player under say under 24 with aspirations of going to the UK will never sign more than 1 year on the advice of their "Agents"

Freedom of contract = no fee = larger signing on fee.

Can't see this changing in the near future unfortunately.

Older players will grab longer contracts with both hands for security.

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Re: Rumours/Transfers/Renewals 2017

Postby mike » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:28 am

I can understand that Alan but as ever money talks, if a club in Ireland was to offer better money and a 2 year deal, the player might consider staying. I'd agree though very hard to turn down 5k per week or whatever a championship side can offer, but on the other side if it was a choice of going to Torquay etc that Hoban picked, that wouldn't be a good choice.

Championship club is always attractive but its a very tough gig, sometimes you might not even make the match day squad, look at Towell, he has played less than 10 competitive games in his 2 years away. Still on good money mind.

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Re: Rumours/Transfers/Renewals 2017

Postby Ezeikial » Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:13 pm

Trevor Clarke and Dylan Connolly are just two recent examples of young players with UK aspirations who recently signed contracts for 2 years or more.

A Daryl Horgan in 2016 or Richie Towell in 2015 may not have being willing to sign anything other that 1 year deals, but maybe longer deals would have been attractive to them earlier

A 3 year deal can also allows the club to offer a performing player increased terms mid-contract that allows for a further contract extension. An option for the club to take up a further season can also be built in to a contract
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Re: Rumours/Transfers/Renewals 2017

Postby Louth4sam » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:15 pm

Ezeikial wrote:Trevor Clarke and Dylan Connolly are just two recent examples of young players with UK aspirations who recently signed contracts for 2 years or more.

A Daryl Horgan in 2016 or Richie Towell in 2015 may not have being willing to sign anything other that 1 year deals, but maybe longer deals would have been attractive to them earlier

A 3 year deal can also allows the club to offer a performing player increased terms mid-contract that allows for a further contract extension. An option for the club to take up a further season can also be built in to a contract


On the flip slide of that, if a player gets a bad injury or loses form you're stuck with them for three years. It's a gamble but worth taking if the talent appears good enough
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Re: Rumours/Transfers/Renewals 2017

Postby Ezeikial » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:46 pm

Louth4sam wrote:
On the flip slide of that, if a player gets a bad injury or loses form you're stuck with them for three years. It's a gamble but worth taking if the talent appears good enough


Fair points. The risks can be mitigated by insuring the player against certain categories of injury, although this adds to the outlay. Loss of form is a more difficult one, but obviously this is a possibility with a developing player. I suppose that is part of the risk v return assessment that a manager / club has to make.

Most LoI clubs are not in a position to take a long-term view or to invest in players in a speculative way like this, nor do they have a management team that have the security to think beyond the immediate or following season.
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Re: Rumours/Transfers/Renewals 2017

Postby El Paso » Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:26 pm

I would have thought that with the money washing around in English football you could get lads to sign two year deals with reasonable buy out clauses. That's what they agreed with Maguire. Then the incentive is there for the player to play like Maguire did (far better than he did last year) to get his big move and the club benefits.
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