Strategic plan

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Re: Strategic plan

Postby mike » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:51 pm

Listened to that interview myself over the weekend, looks like they are looking at all options on ground development and to be fair the pitch had to be no 1 priority. I' d also say a lot of fans forgot about the huge bill the club had to settle with the LCC. Both of these outlays must have eaten a lot into available funds.

It would be good to hear the final update though and what is feasible to make improvements on, we might hear news on that next month or later in the summer.



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Re: Strategic plan

Postby Ezeikial » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:35 pm

The website interview gives the owners reflections on the progress the club has made over the last four years, the lessons learned and their plans for the future. Any update is welcome, but there is very little detail on future plans, other than revamping the bar in the YDC

INTERVIEW WITH THE OWNERS



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Re: Strategic plan

Postby mike » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:25 pm

That looks like the same article that was in the match programme v Rosenborg. Seems they are at least considering all options. Extending the bar in the YDC and for use at matches could be a right big money spinner. Could have before and after match events there too, and toilets !!!

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Re: Strategic plan

Postby Sneachta » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:26 pm

We're getting there Ezeikial. A bit of drip feeding is better than nout at all. They did say they were meeting with outside consultants at getting it up to Uefa standard. Lots of ifs and buts but its good to hear some communication on it.

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Re: Strategic plan

Postby Louth4sam » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:52 pm

mike wrote: Extending the bar in the YDC and for use at matches could be a right big money spinner. Could have before and after match events there too, and toilets !!!


Massive money spinner is right. If they run it correctly and have pints ready in plastic glasses at half time they could make a fortune over the season. I know a lot of people don't bother with pints due to the walk to and from Lilywhite.

Also the after match events is a good idea. Could have live acts on with free entry for match goers or charge a fiver to those not at the game. People go out of the way to see bands especially tribute acts in the spirit store no reason they wouldn't go to Oriel to see these
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Re: Strategic plan

Postby mike » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:05 pm

Q+A sessions with former players too would be a great idea, this was tried in the lilywhite with Mick Lawlor, I think Linfield at home in the Setanta in 2011, it went ok but it was too cramped. This is the stuff you need to be thinking about and doing, get them in early, line up the pints at HT as LFS says, bars like Kennedys might suffer, but this is all potential huge income streams for the club that most of our rivals could not offer.

Future euro matches, get caterers in, curry, lasagne, burgers pre match, whatever it takes, if anyone is familiar with the excellent 'Phoenix Nights' (Peter Kay) he comes out with a brilliant line on a funday to raise funds.

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Re: Strategic plan

Postby dell » Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:20 pm

There is massive potential to the YDC. Initially it could be considered to have a catering/event management type company run it and build a customer base and reputation. People might balk at the idea but there are plenty of examples especially if there isnt the staff levels or specialist expertise at the club - of course the club could employ people to do the job but that would take money in the short term without the level of return possible. Say a company pays a flat fee over 3 years with a % of profits over a certain level also going to the club. It is certainly a option used successfully elsewhere for a facility to be established and lucrative contracts could be struck with the best opportunity to maximise potential. It would bring the centre beyond simply bar sales on match nights. 5 years down the line the club could be in a position to take over the running of the centre directly or in conjunction with an external company.
The Seniors World Badminton Championships is an example of potential events but as L4S has said concerts, shows could be hosted. Certainly when you consider that the (currently closed) Fairways were holding some pretty big shows in nothing more than a basic room with a bar. A little bit of thought and the YDC could be the preferred venue for larger events in Dundalk. The Town hall lacks capacitY, for example, and foldable raked seating if installed would certainly give the YDC an advantage over conference rooms in a hotel for suitable events. Sound and lighting obviously would enhance the possibilities. Sporting events et all too and the centre could be in some way in use consistantly without relying on the likes of indoor football rentals as that area is saturated with similar options all over town. The bar and catering potential would feed (pardon the pun) in to these events.
I dont think there is a building in the North-East region of the size and potential and that can really be exploited if its is upgraded to make it more than a very big shed. Its relatively minor part of this but the exterior certainly facing in to Oriel Park could be enhanced with appropriate branding/naming and signage and sponsorship, initially anyway so pretty big advertisment hoarding on the facade for main club sponsor or the like. How about naming rights as part of an expansion of a club sponsor deal. Is calling it an 'arena' pushing it a bit lol Fyffes Oriel Arena, Total Produce Live Centre.....

It also could increase the community aspect of the club with further partnership with DkIT, let the Event Management students have access to the centre so many days of the year and see what they can do.

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Re: Strategic plan

Postby mike » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:02 pm

There may not look too much space, but there actually is a good bit of room to improve in the shed size itself. The current seating could be completely removed, same with poles and roof and have a sharper angle height wise by using the YDC as the back structure. You could probably go as much as 10 seats high, but if this was continued almost corner to corner you might be looking at up to 2,000 seats.

Just another example of utilising the YDC fully.

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Re: Strategic plan

Postby Johnnybegood33 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:48 pm

Any word on plans for Oriel.

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Re: Strategic plan

Postby dell » Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:51 pm

Johnnybegood33 wrote:Any word on plans for Oriel.


Bar the interview on the website nothing concrete yet.

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Re: Strategic plan

Postby Johnnybegood33 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:55 pm

It will be great to see the day we don't have to travel to Tallaght.

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Re: Strategic plan

Postby oldfogey » Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:05 pm

Sadly I think this is a long way off. Six months is nothing in terms of getting planning permission for a project like this. Whether building on a greenfield site, or renovating Oriel Park, you're probably looking at minimum 2 years to finish to Cat 3 standard.

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Re: Strategic plan

Postby Wexford White » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:11 pm

mike wrote:There may not look too much space, but there actually is a good bit of room to improve in the shed size itself. The current seating could be completely removed, same with poles and roof and have a sharper angle height wise by using the YDC as the back structure. You could probably go as much as 10 seats high, but if this was continued almost corner to corner you might be looking at up to 2,000 seats.

Just another example of utilising the YDC fully.


I think this is a great idea!
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Re: Strategic plan

Postby El Paso » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:30 pm

We're talking years alright.

I think we should be looking at partnering with DKIT in terms of training facilities, access to sports science, analytical support and attracting players with evening courses and so on for after their careers.

To my mind, regarding the ground, the smart move I think is to properly terrace the two ends of the ground first, then on the shed side of the ground build a pitch-length stand that incorporates the YDC with training facilities, decent temporary offices and new dressing rooms, linked to the terraces. Then finally demolish the existing stand, bar and terraces and do the full length stand on that side incorporating bars food kiosks and so on to link the four sides of the ground.

Where we are, right now, we should be able to ensure European qualification every year for the foreseeable and hopefully that's enough to pay for it all with government/council/FAI support.
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Re: Strategic plan

Postby oldfogey » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:32 pm

I suspect a big part of the delay is deciding on exactly how many seats should be in the stadium. There's not much point in building a 6,000 seater and still going to Tallaght for EL group games. I don't think, however, that its possible to fit a big enough one on the current footprint. There is a limit on what can be done with the Carrick end in that you still vehicular access to the YDC. For me , staying is only possible if the club can acquire the laneway at the town end and the Joe's field behind it.
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