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Re: Official Takeover Thread

Post by Martin Lawlor80 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:51 pm

So will he be in charge of club communication that many on here seem to have a real problem with ?
Or is he just in charge of interviews post game or during the week?

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Re: Official Takeover Thread

Post by Pepsi » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:05 pm

Great move getting Gavin into the club full time. Lets hope they give him free run and allow him develope his own ideas on how and what the club communicate. If they play this right he might just be the person that locals trust and accept when he makes a statement.

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Re: Official Takeover Thread

Post by Ezeikial » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:13 pm

Martin Lawlor80 wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:51 pm
So will he be in charge of club communication that many on here seem to have a real problem with ?
Or is he just in charge of interviews post game or during the week?
The website announce him as the club’s new Media Content Officer.
https://www.dundalkfc.com/welcome-gavin-mclaughlin/

I would expect the position to expand beyond the job specification originally advertised and to embrace a wider communications remit, including marketing elements. At least I hope so, otherwise a serious talent would be under-utilised!

Gavin could do the media content aspects blindfolded as a part time job, but could have a really significant additional impact if the position is broadened out
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Re: Official Takeover Thread

Post by Carrick_Road » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:14 pm

Club appoint two new employees for the roles of chief business officer and project manager

https://www.dundalkfc.com/club-appoints ... employees/

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Re: Official Takeover Thread

Post by El Paso » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:41 pm

Best of luck to both.

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Re: Official Takeover Thread

Post by Ezeikial » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:50 pm

Carrick_Road wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:14 pm
Club appoint two new employees for the roles of chief business officer and project manager

https://www.dundalkfc.com/club-appoints ... employees/
Bold move.

Dave Minto is generally well regarded while the marketing experience that Aaron Lawless brings may well fill a significant need within the club.

Good luck to all
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Re: Official Takeover Thread

Post by Pepsi » Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:36 pm

Said months ago on here I would love to see Dave come into the club. Lets hope both lads can help take us to the next level.....onwards and upwards we go.

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Re: Official Takeover Thread

Post by El Paso » Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:59 pm

There’s a very good chance that games are going to start getting called off. We’re right on the edge of it now. The clubs need to be getting a plan together cos I’m not sure how many can go a few weeks without gate receipts.

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Re: Official Takeover Thread

Post by grayzer75 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:11 pm

El Paso wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:59 pm
There’s a very good chance that games are going to start getting called off. We’re right on the edge of it now. The clubs need to be getting a plan together cos I’m not sure how many can go a few weeks without gate receipts.
More worrying would be potential loss of European money it there's significant delays or cancellations going forward - will qualifiers commence in July?

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Re: Official Takeover Thread

Post by El Paso » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:18 pm

It should clear up when temperatures rise. Apparently it thrives in 7-11 degC. So should be normal by then. But it could become a new seasonal flu

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Re: Official Takeover Thread

Post by oldfogey » Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:38 pm

grayzer75 wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:11 pm
El Paso wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:59 pm
There’s a very good chance that games are going to start getting called off. We’re right on the edge of it now. The clubs need to be getting a plan together cos I’m not sure how many can go a few weeks without gate receipts.
More worrying would be potential loss of European money it there's significant delays or cancellations going forward - will qualifiers commence in July?
Preliminary Round Draw is June 9th. 1st & 2nd Round draws a week later.

Preliminary Round playoffs are 23/6 & 26/6. You would assume those teams would need to be confirmed at least a week before the draw.

The four CL Preliminiary Round teams all come from winter leagues. The longest of those is Kosovo, with 11 rounds still to play.

Of the 33 teams in the First Round proper, 20 leagues are still in action. We could see individual associations putting teams forward for European spots who haven't necessarily qualified.

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Re: Official Takeover Thread

Post by Pepsi » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:11 am

El Paso wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:59 pm
There’s a very good chance that games are going to start getting called off. We’re right on the edge of it now. The clubs need to be getting a plan together cos I’m not sure how many can go a few weeks without gate receipts.
Unfortunately, that is not something new in the LOI and its only shows how important correct governance is during the licencing process. Would also be a bonus if the FAI were liquid and could help support the clubs, but JD made sure that is not the case.

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Re: Official Takeover Thread

Post by Martin Lawlor80 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:32 pm

How much money do you think we’d actually lose dues to gate receipts? I’d assume that we’d have quite a large season ticket allocation so that needs to be factored in. The likes of Bohs and Shels are practically sell outs every game due to STs but they’d lose a good bit from away support from us , each other , rovers and maybe Pats. Would we lose so much from away support??

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Re: Official Takeover Thread

Post by Pepsi » Tue May 05, 2020 2:16 pm

Bill getting things out in the public. Same old FAI it seems....

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer ... -1.4244862
Dundalk chairman Bill Hulsizer says that he stands over the comments made in an email sent to senior officials at other Airticity League clubs over the weekend but that he will only elaborate on charges made against the FAI once the recipients have had the opportunity to reply to what he describes as a “cry for help”.

Hulsizer, who succeeded Mike Treacy as the club’s chairman at the end of last year, is scathing in the email, which The Irish Times has seen.

“Dundalk FC and myself have been lied to, stolen from, insulted and disrespected by the FAI,” he says in an extraordinary attack. “I am sure many of you feel the same, and have suffered similar treatment. Thursday’s meeting has convinced me that the FAI are masters’ of spin and want everyone to focus on the future and forget about the past.

He goes on to describe “the FAI of the past,” as “a failed business model,” and contends that while John Delaney is universally held responsible, others, some of them still active and influential at the association, must take a share of the blame for some of the current failings.

Ultimately, he suggests that the tone of one of the league’s recent working group meetings and some of the documentation circulated after another; “indicates the FAI intends to treat the clubs of Ireland as subservient to the FAI.

“They [the FAI] have not earned nor do they deserve that right,” he says, adding that “We, Dundalk FC, are prepared to work with (not for) the FAI to promote the League of Ireland, or to challenge the FAI publicly in all the forums available (Fifa, Uefa, Irish Governmen and most importantly the Irish people).”

He concludes by asking owners of other clubs to support his position.

Contacted for a comment, Hulsizer said: “I will stand behind everything that I have said there I don’t think it is fair to my fellow club owners to say anything more until they have had a chance to consider the email.”

Behind closed doors, the American is said to have been repeatedly critical of the association in recent months and is understood to feel aggrieved, on behalf of his club, with regard to the way Stephen Kenny was hired by the FAI, the association’s much more recent interest in Ruairdhi Higgins and other aspects of the financial relationship between the two.

He appears to favour a complete break by clubs with the association and may well have been angered by an exchange at the working group meeting of April 23rd during which, according to the minutes: “It was clarified that the bottom line is the FAI would not agree in any circumstances that an independent structure will be set up to run the Premier Division commercially; it has to be seen as under the subsidiary of the FAI.”

Brand awareness
He also expresses irritation with regard to the early stages of the process to draw up a new participation agreement to replace one that was, during Delaney’s time in charge of the association, widely seen as an instrument for suppressing any criticism, or even questions, from clubs.

Privately, though, senior officials in the association’s current leadership have accepted that the old participation agreement was entirely unfair and the suggestion has been that there is a willingness to move towards something far more equitable, with the end of June mentioned as a target date.

Officials from some other clubs said yesterday that they believe the association’s representatives at the meetings have come across as sincere on this point and that the process seems to be progressing quite well.

Figures given to the meeting of the 23rd, meanwhile, suggest that the FAI has been making a profit of just under €300,000 on running the league with Uefa funding of 1.045 million, sponsorship of €375,000, television revenues of €341,000, Streaming income of €110,000 and €200,000 in fines more than enough to cover the cost of prize money, administration and other expenses. Delaney had always claimed the association subsidised the league and refused to allow the clubs see the figures.

The clubs have also been shown the results of market research which suggests significantly increased interest levels in the league –up by around 20 per cent since 2016 – with the senior club game here enjoying good brand awareness and a positive image among the population at large.

The association has committed to working with clubs on a number of fronts, including investment in stadiums and other facilities as well as commercial revenues and the development of the women’s and underage games.

Its own revenues seem increasingly likely to be further hit by the Covid-19 crisis, however, with growing doubts about the prospect of the Nations League games scheduled for the autumn going ahead and at the very least there seems very likely to be severe restrictions on attendances.

Interim CEO Gary Owens recently acknowledged that the three home games – against Finland, Wales and Bulgaria – are financially important to the FAI but in an interview with this newspaper in recent days, Dr Cillian De Gascun, a member of the National Public Health Emergency Team, was asked about whether he envisaged England and France being able to come to Dublin for international rugby matches next spring.

“In my own head, I would like to think the Six Nations can happen,” he said, “but I don’t see how at this point.”

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Re: Official Takeover Thread

Post by oldfogey » Tue May 05, 2020 2:44 pm

Pepsi wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 2:16 pm
Bill getting things out in the public. Same old FAI it seems....

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer ... -1.4244862
Dundalk chairman Bill Hulsizer says that he stands over the comments made in an email sent to senior officials at other Airticity League clubs over the weekend but that he will only elaborate on charges made against the FAI once the recipients have had the opportunity to reply to what he describes as a “cry for help”.

Hulsizer, who succeeded Mike Treacy as the club’s chairman at the end of last year, is scathing in the email, which The Irish Times has seen.

“Dundalk FC and myself have been lied to, stolen from, insulted and disrespected by the FAI,” he says in an extraordinary attack. “I am sure many of you feel the same, and have suffered similar treatment. Thursday’s meeting has convinced me that the FAI are masters’ of spin and want everyone to focus on the future and forget about the past.

He goes on to describe “the FAI of the past,” as “a failed business model,” and contends that while John Delaney is universally held responsible, others, some of them still active and influential at the association, must take a share of the blame for some of the current failings.

Ultimately, he suggests that the tone of one of the league’s recent working group meetings and some of the documentation circulated after another; “indicates the FAI intends to treat the clubs of Ireland as subservient to the FAI.

“They [the FAI] have not earned nor do they deserve that right,” he says, adding that “We, Dundalk FC, are prepared to work with (not for) the FAI to promote the League of Ireland, or to challenge the FAI publicly in all the forums available (Fifa, Uefa, Irish Governmen and most importantly the Irish people).”

He concludes by asking owners of other clubs to support his position.

Contacted for a comment, Hulsizer said: “I will stand behind everything that I have said there I don’t think it is fair to my fellow club owners to say anything more until they have had a chance to consider the email.”

Behind closed doors, the American is said to have been repeatedly critical of the association in recent months and is understood to feel aggrieved, on behalf of his club, with regard to the way Stephen Kenny was hired by the FAI, the association’s much more recent interest in Ruairdhi Higgins and other aspects of the financial relationship between the two.

He appears to favour a complete break by clubs with the association and may well have been angered by an exchange at the working group meeting of April 23rd during which, according to the minutes: “It was clarified that the bottom line is the FAI would not agree in any circumstances that an independent structure will be set up to run the Premier Division commercially; it has to be seen as under the subsidiary of the FAI.”

Brand awareness
He also expresses irritation with regard to the early stages of the process to draw up a new participation agreement to replace one that was, during Delaney’s time in charge of the association, widely seen as an instrument for suppressing any criticism, or even questions, from clubs.

Privately, though, senior officials in the association’s current leadership have accepted that the old participation agreement was entirely unfair and the suggestion has been that there is a willingness to move towards something far more equitable, with the end of June mentioned as a target date.

Officials from some other clubs said yesterday that they believe the association’s representatives at the meetings have come across as sincere on this point and that the process seems to be progressing quite well.

Figures given to the meeting of the 23rd, meanwhile, suggest that the FAI has been making a profit of just under €300,000 on running the league with Uefa funding of 1.045 million, sponsorship of €375,000, television revenues of €341,000, Streaming income of €110,000 and €200,000 in fines more than enough to cover the cost of prize money, administration and other expenses. Delaney had always claimed the association subsidised the league and refused to allow the clubs see the figures.

The clubs have also been shown the results of market research which suggests significantly increased interest levels in the league –up by around 20 per cent since 2016 – with the senior club game here enjoying good brand awareness and a positive image among the population at large.

The association has committed to working with clubs on a number of fronts, including investment in stadiums and other facilities as well as commercial revenues and the development of the women’s and underage games.

Its own revenues seem increasingly likely to be further hit by the Covid-19 crisis, however, with growing doubts about the prospect of the Nations League games scheduled for the autumn going ahead and at the very least there seems very likely to be severe restrictions on attendances.

Interim CEO Gary Owens recently acknowledged that the three home games – against Finland, Wales and Bulgaria – are financially important to the FAI but in an interview with this newspaper in recent days, Dr Cillian De Gascun, a member of the National Public Health Emergency Team, was asked about whether he envisaged England and France being able to come to Dublin for international rugby matches next spring.

“In my own head, I would like to think the Six Nations can happen,” he said, “but I don’t see how at this point.”
I'm not really sure what he hopes to achieve with this rant. There is only one place the clubs are going to get money at the moment and that is via the FAI. That being the case I doubt he will find many clubs supporting him publicly. There is little in the way of specifics here but - with the exception of poaching Higgins - he seems to be raking up old coals relating to the previous regime, and from a time when he wasn't around either. Stephen Kenny's departure to the FAI was facilitated by the fact that he had an exit clause in his contract with Dundalk. It was either missed in due diligence, or not considered relevant. What SK had done for us was the reason Peak 6 looked at acquiring the club in the first place. Did nobody think he would be a target for a bigger job? It's also a bit of a backhanded insult at the current management. It's not as if we have struggled since Kenny left. Vinnie Perth won the league at a canter and we only missed the treble by one penalty.

Making enemies of people who were not originally involved in the Delaney era is not going to do the club any good. Much better to compain in a constructive way, instead of coming over all John Wayne. People have been charged with bringing the game into disrepute for less.

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