2019 Season - Preview, Fixtures & Attendances

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Re: 2019 Season - Preview, Fixtures & Attendances

Post by Sneachta » Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:50 am

And when you look at it like that, it makes total sense. But sure it shouldn't be up to Vinny to manage refixtures. He should have that burden alleviated and the master plan of fixtures should be considerate of player welfare, even with rearranged matches. It is what it is. Enjoy the night when it comes.

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Re: 2019 Season - Preview, Fixtures & Attendances

Post by Sneachta » Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:01 am

On a separate issue, the attendance last night of circa 2800??? Suspect. I thought it looked a lot more like 3k. Looking on Twitter for the goal it looked like a good 3k. I didn't see what crowd cork brought so maybe my estimations are off.

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Re: 2019 Season - Preview, Fixtures & Attendances

Post by Shoco » Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:52 am

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Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:49 pm
I should add why not play the Waterford game Thursday the 19th and the rovers game Sunday the 22nd.

Or even better, Waterford Wednesday 18th and rovers Saturday 21st.

Anything is better than Monday.

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Oh yeah cos that would be fair on Waterford. Hey Waterford we are moving you standard Friday night game to a Wednesday so Dundalk can have bigger home gate that weekend while you lose out,cheers!

You’re not making any sense here, while it’s crap that the game is Monday night, it’s refixed for a cup final, there really is nothing else that can be done about it unless you have no league games at all the weekend of the league cup final which also makes no sense

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Re: 2019 Season - Preview, Fixtures & Attendances

Post by Sneachta » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:13 am

Oh yeah, poor old Waterford playing in the biscuit cup in Scotland. Poor old Waterford. Whatever!

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Re: 2019 Season - Preview, Fixtures & Attendances

Post by Shoco » Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:19 pm

Good point, well presented

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Re: 2019 Season - Preview, Fixtures & Attendances

Post by seand » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:55 am

Sneachta wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:01 am
On a separate issue, the attendance last night of circa 2800??? Suspect. I thought it looked a lot more like 3k. Looking on Twitter for the goal it looked like a good 3k. I didn't see what crowd cork brought so maybe my estimations are off.

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Crowd was definitely over 3,000. I tried to buy one kids ticket about 10 minutes before kickoff and they were out of printed tickets, so they took the money and waved us through without scanning a ticket or the accompanying season ticket. I'm guessing they counted physical tickets. It does a disservice to the club to be reporting lower attendances. I've always said count everybody who's in the ground including freebies and count all season ticket holders, sure they've paid to be there anyway. The difference in perception between a crowd of under 3,000 and over 3,000 (or over/under 1,000 for that matter) is significant.

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Re: 2019 Season - Preview, Fixtures & Attendances

Post by Sneachta » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:07 am

Shoco wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:19 pm
Good point, well presented
So I mean.....just to back up what I am saying here, from the man himself, Vinny Perth.

https://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/news/soc ... ulous.html

So if he could see that there was room, even in October to play this fixture, and I could see it, and a few others here, then why not you? Unless you're just trolling?

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Re: 2019 Season - Preview, Fixtures & Attendances

Post by Shoco » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:08 pm

Sneachta wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:07 am
Shoco wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:19 pm
Good point, well presented
So I mean.....just to back up what I am saying here, from the man himself, Vinny Perth.

https://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/news/soc ... ulous.html

So if he could see that there was room, even in October to play this fixture, and I could see it, and a few others here, then why not you? Unless you're just trolling?
Yes I must be trolling because I have a different opinion. *roll eyes*

I've looked at the fixtures, there's still no weekend spot available in October, The Rovers game has no choice but to be refixed for a mid-week game

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Re: 2019 Season - Preview, Fixtures & Attendances

Post by El Paso » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:16 pm

It always had to be a Monday with the current schedule. Perth’s point was that shoehorning it in to a hectic schedule to make it a potential title decider was wrong.

If it was a Monday later in October, then the decider could have been the following Friday home match against Derry (assuming results went that way of course.

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Re: 2019 Season - Preview, Fixtures & Attendances

Post by Shoco » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:50 pm

El Paso wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:16 pm
It always had to be a Monday with the current schedule. Perth’s point was that shoehorning it in to a hectic schedule to make it a potential title decider was wrong.

If it was a Monday later in October, then the decider could have been the following Friday home match against Derry (assuming results went that way of course.
But chances are if the rovers game is pushed back, then assuming we both win our games, it will be Bohs away where we would play to win it not Derry at home.

Now I would rather see us win it at home in front of our own fans on a Monday than away to bohs on a Friday were tickets will be limited

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Re: 2019 Season - Preview, Fixtures & Attendances

Post by El Paso » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:59 pm

Hence my last line.

As it happens I fancy Pats to get something from Rovers.

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Re: 2019 Season - Preview, Fixtures & Attendances

Post by oldfogey » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:21 am

El Paso wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:59 pm
Hence my last line.

As it happens I fancy Pats to get something from Rovers.
It's actually a huge game for them.

Unless Crumlin or Sligo actually win the cup, the top 4 will go into europe next year. That leaves 2 to make it from Bohs, Derry, and Pat's. We play all three of them in Series 34, 33 and 36 respectively. Unfortunately for Pat's the other 2 don't have to face Rovers, but all 3 play each other on the run in.

While the title will almost certainly be wrapped up before the last game, it would be rather ironic if Skip came to Oriel Park needing a win for 4th, while we were chasing something like the points record or most clean sheets, and setting up for the trophy presentation.

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Re: 2019 Season - Preview, Fixtures & Attendances

Post by Ezeikial » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:18 pm

Good summary of the seasons journey, challenges and achievements by Emmet Malone
Dundalk crowned champions again - how the league was won
Vinny Perth’s side overcame tricky start before racing clear of the field
Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 21:14

Emmet Malone at Oriel Park

Trying to compare or contrast different league title successes is a less than perfect business. Yet Vinny Perth might be forgiven for rating this as his favourite among the five that Dundalk have now won in the last six seasons.

There are so many ways in which this season might have gone less well than it has for him and his players and a couple of key moments early on when it looked as though it could all come off the rails. But the 43-year-old has justified the faith he maintained he had in himself when taking on the job, then toughing things out through those opening weeks of the campaign.

There was no shortage of talk back in mid-April when Bohemians came to Oriel Park that if the team lost a third straight game Perth might well have been on his way. As it turned out, a 95th-minute penalty that the champions were very lucky to get gave Dundalk all three points that evening.

It would have been hard to imagine at the time that the last-gasp win would be the start of an unbeaten run in domestic competitions that has yet to end. This win extended it to 29 matches, 23 of them in the league, of which just two were drawn.

Few teams in any league could be expected to compete with that. In the end it just proved too much for a Shamrock Rovers side that looked better again than last year and great on its day, but ultimately not quite consistently good enough over the duration of the campaign to go the distance with the frontrunners.

Perth, of course, inherited an outstanding group of players but he has put enough of his own stamp on things to be able to say that this is no simple extension of the Stephen Kenny era.

It was inevitable that Kenny would cast a shadow over his former assistant when his fellow Dubliner succeeded him. The situation was complicated by the slightly ridiculous rule (given how routinely it has been sidestepped) requiring his role as manager to be publicly obscured due to his lack of the required coaching qualification.

John Gill’s involvement, or at least the circumstances of it, might have posed problems, but the pair give every indication of having worked really well together. If they had not it is genuinely hard to see how the team could have done so well, or both of them could have survived the season.

Perth has also had to cope, though, with the American owners’ attempt to put more of a structure around him. The manager has never complained about the involvement of Andy Burton to help with recruitment and he claimed at the time that he saw the appointment as having the potential to deliver significant returns. But the initiative appears to have delivered little by way of signings that would not otherwise have been made, while it appears to have complicated things for a few of those around already at the club.

There were injuries too, with Pat McEleney and Robbie Benson suffering serious setbacks at the outset and key midfielder Chris Shields among the others to endure a lengthy spell on the sidelines. Through it all, however, the champions pressed on, first closing the lead that Shamrock Rovers had opened up on them, then powering away with Derry City, it seemed, the only side that knew how to stop them winning.

Rovers will reflect on how tight things would still be if they had just been able to split the points from their four league encounters instead of drawing the first then losing the next three – but that is a very big ‘if’.

It will not be much consolation to the Dubliners that Dundalk probably managed all of this without having the league’s best player this season. Their stars, though, most obviously Pat Hoban, who looks set to be the top flight’s leading scorer again, and Michael Duffy, while Jamie McGrath has progressed considerably and a couple of the new arrivals, Seán Murray and Daniel Kelly, made impressive contributions at times.

All told, the team has won more points per game than it did over the course of last season. There have been fewer goals so far but Gannon and Gary Rogers have been constants in a more varied back five that has been significantly tighter than in 2018.

Results in Europe were more mixed and there are those who feel the team should have done better. Sustaining success on that front, however, will be a huge challenge given the budgets of the clubs that Irish sides come up against. They will get another crack at it all next summer, though, because they are, once more, indisputably the best team in this league . . . and by a bit of a distance.
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Re: 2019 Season - Preview, Fixtures & Attendances

Post by Ezeikial » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:06 pm

Chris Shields gives some tongue-in-cheek comments on his team maters

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Re: 2019 Season - Preview, Fixtures & Attendances

Post by El Paso » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:07 pm

That was fantastic!

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