Dundalk v Cork City | Fri 29 March | 7:45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 7

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Dundalk v Cork City | Fri 29 March | 7:45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 7

Post by Ezeikial » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:47 pm

With the postponement of the Bohs match, the next fixture at home to Cork seems a long way away, but it should help give time to some of the injuries to clear up.

The match is live on TV although the kick off time is currently listed at the usual time of 7:45pm

With only 2 points between the teams there is plenty riding on this match for both teams. It is likely that Cork will come with intention of playing it tight, being happy with a draw but hoping to nick a win.

We are building nicely and will be favourites for all 3 points. Let's hope our lads deliver!


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Re: Dundalk v Cork City | Fri 29 March | 7:45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 7

Post by El Paso » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:20 pm

Doesn’t have the blue ribbon feel of previous seasons. Assuming Rovers beat Harps again next week they’ll be 7 points ahead and playing UCD at home the same night. Dispatching Cork in the same manner as Waterford and Derry matters mostly to not let that gap grow to 9 or 10 points.

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Post by Wexford White » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:30 pm

When will the Bohs match be played?
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Re: Dundalk v Cork City | Fri 29 March | 7:45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 7

Post by mike » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:02 pm

I'd say the Bohs game will have to move to a mid week slot now, TBC. The crowd will be down by almost 1k, they would have taken 400 min to a Friday game where we would have expected 3k overall.

I'd imagine the FAI will announce shortly when all of the games postponed on Friday night will be re-scheduled.

Prob no harm in hindsight the Bohs game being postponed, will give us more time to work on the injured players.

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Re: Dundalk v Cork City | Fri 29 March | 7:45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 7

Post by El Paso » Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:49 am

Caulfield has something to say about the pitch at Oriel:

https://t.co/SvDNpXHooK

Whatever John, you crushing bore.

Anyway the more interesting part in there is that Daire O'Connor, their only impressive player in the President's Cup match, is out with a dislocated shoulder. Despite our injury list I'd certainly have us as favourites (assuming no one else is out that we don't know about) and would be very disappointed with anything less than 3 points.

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Re: Dundalk v Cork City | Fri 29 March | 7:45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 7

Post by seand » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:31 am

Caulfield is (unintentionally) hilarious. Bringing up Luton and QPR's 1980s pitches, ffs.

And this paragraph is utterly outstanding, it's absolutely glorious the sheer volume of excrement he's managed to pack into a small few words.....

" makes for no tackling and possibly a slower game. You can't beat the uncertainty of the bobble on the pitch and the players slipping which is part of our game."

No tackling on a 4G artificial surface?
A slower game on a ludicrously fast, consistent surface?
Uncertain bobbles- compared to the mess of Turner's Cross?
And my personal favourite is the fact that players slipping is a part of Cork's game!

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Re: Dundalk v Cork City | Fri 29 March | 7:45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 7

Post by Kezz » Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:15 pm

seand wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:31 am
Caulfield is (unintentionally) hilarious. Bringing up Luton and QPR's 1980s pitches, ffs.

And this paragraph is utterly outstanding, it's absolutely glorious the sheer volume of excrement he's managed to pack into a small few words.....

" makes for no tackling and possibly a slower game. You can't beat the uncertainty of the bobble on the pitch and the players slipping which is part of our game."

No tackling on a 4G artificial surface?
A slower game on a ludicrously fast, consistent surface?
Uncertain bobbles- compared to the mess of Turner's Cross?
And my personal favourite is the fact that players slipping is a part of Cork's game!

There is a lot less tackling done on an artificial surface. Especially from teams that don't use that surface consistently. Surely you have played on both surfaces at some stage and understand the huge differences in how your body movements are entirely different on each surface.

The surface slows down the pace of the game. Watch a game in Tallaght, Turners Cross or Dalymount and the ball moves far quicker across grass.

Again due to not using it on a consistent basis, it's hard to judge the bounce of the ball as well as a team who uses the surface more often. That would be Dundalk.

You make zero sense with the 'slipping' remark, because most neutral supporters in the league will tell you that Dundalk players are known to be the quickest of all teams to hit the decek with the most minimal contact.

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Re: Dundalk v Cork City | Fri 29 March | 7:45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 7

Post by seand » Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:32 pm

Not sure if Kezz is on the wind-up here, but I have a couple of minutes.

Why would there be less tackling done on a 4G artificial surface? They play rugby on these surfaces, it's fine to fall or tackle on. Admittedly there's a lot less tackling in modern, possession based football and 4G surfaces suit teams who want to play football, so that may be a factor, but I doubt that was JC's or Kezz's point.
I've watched dozens of games at Tala, TX and Dalyer. The best of them, in Tallaght, is good and often plays very well- fast and consistent. Faster than a well watered 4G though? Doubt it.
If Dundalk get an advantage in judging the bounce in Oriel every other club gets an advtange in their cabbage patch.
And I agree 100% with Kezz that the slipping remake makes zero sense.... that was JC's quote though, "...players slipping which is part of our game". I wouldn't disagree with our guest though that Dundalk are among the most, ahem, professional about drawing the foul.

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Re: Dundalk v Cork City | Fri 29 March | 7:45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 7

Post by El Paso » Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:51 pm

As usual with Cork fans it's all just projection.

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Re: Dundalk v Cork City | Fri 29 March | 7:45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 7

Post by Ezeikial » Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:44 pm

El Paso wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:49 am
Caulfield has something to say about the pitch at Oriel:

https://t.co/SvDNpXHooK

Whatever John, you crushing bore.

Anyway the more interesting part in there is that Daire O'Connor, their only impressive player in the President's Cup match, is out with a dislocated shoulder. Despite our injury list I'd certainly have us as favourites (assuming no one else is out that we don't know about) and would be very disappointed with anything less than 3 points.
Its just Caulfield trying to get a rise.

I await to see the team sheet about Daire O Connor - no surprise if he plays
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Re: Dundalk v Cork City | Fri 29 March | 7:45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 7

Post by Spotter » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:11 pm

Seems like every player in the Scottish Premiership agrees with him...
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sp ... e-to-spfl/

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Re: Dundalk v Cork City | Fri 29 March | 7:45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 7

Post by El Paso » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:30 pm

As usual when discussion of our pitch comes up and there are bad faith claims that it’s an unfair advantage to Dundalk, there are two important points to remember: 1) Dundalk over the last few years have an away record every bit as good as the home record - we’ve dominated because we’ve been the best by a distance and 2) The vast majority of the grass pitches in the LOI are poor playing surfaces, particularly this time of year. John didn’t have much to say when Cork beat us 3-0 in Oriel, of course.

I’d rather see us play on grass, but not if the bar is being set at LOI average. However, unlike Cork and Sham Rovers, we don’t get pitches relaid for us for free.
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Post by Ezeikial » Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:11 pm

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Re: Dundalk v Cork City | Fri 29 March | 7:45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 7

Post by Ezeikial » Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:11 pm

Ezeikial wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:11 pm
Spotter wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:11 pm
Seems like every player in the Scottish Premiership agrees with him...
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sp ... e-to-spfl/
Interesting read, although the credibility of it was distorted by these admissions
Livingston, Hamilton Accies and Kilmarnock have plastic surfaces in the top tier
Players from Hamilton, Livingston and Killie were not asked to take part in the survey.
So only the players who normally play on grass were asked to rate the artificial surfaces that they have limited experience on?

Imagine the results if you asked the leagues bottom six teams in this league if the European prize money should be more shared throughout all clubs!

The only surprise is that Albion Rovers’ Cliftonhil ground – a grass surface – rated at 1.34 and Kilmarnocks' Rugby Park with an artificial surface rated at 1.70
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Re: Dundalk v Cork City | Fri 29 March | 7:45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 7

Post by Ezeikial » Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:16 pm

As an aside on the pitch issue, a bigger grass pitch would suit our style of play much better.

That would be especially true against the usual tactical approach adopted by Cork in Oriel Park
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