Dundalk V St Patricks Ath | Fri 24 May | 7.45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 19

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Dundalk V St Patricks Ath | Fri 24 May | 7.45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 19

Post by Ezeikial » Mon May 20, 2019 11:00 pm

With St Pats playing Tuesday night against Derry in Richmond Park it means that they have the more difficult shorter recovery period ahead of their visit to Oriel Park on Friday.

We have great momentum going even if we are short on numbers in midifeld. With Mountney returning from suspension at least another option is available if needed.

Last time, St Pats got a tactical advantage by setting up with three at the back and the two wing backs gave them an edge in midfield. I don't expect that VP will got caught out again and it would not be a total surprise if he paired Hoban and Georgie Kelly together.

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Re: Dundalk V St Patricks Ath | Fri 24 May | 7.45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 19

Post by El Paso » Mon May 20, 2019 11:44 pm

Playing Hoare in Shields’ position was our downfall that night - now *that* was hoofing. Jarvis back in for Massey might be the extent of it. Flores did quite well and might start again. Two up top might become a plan b to introduce, which is no bad thing.

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Re: Dundalk V St Patricks Ath | Fri 24 May | 7.45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 19

Post by Ezeikial » Tue May 21, 2019 5:55 am

El Paso wrote:
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Playing Hoare in Shields’ position was our downfall that night - now *that* was hoofing. Jarvis back in for Massey might be the extent of it. Flores did quite well and might start again. Two up top might become a plan b to introduce, which is no bad thing.
Absolutely. Hoare did not have the ability to unlock the midfield congestion and everything through him was too slow. Its a different story with Shields at DM and Hoare at CB, but the 2 upfront would give their defence real challenges.
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Re: Dundalk V St Patricks Ath | Fri 24 May | 7.45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 19

Post by Sneachta » Tue May 21, 2019 8:19 am


El Paso wrote:Playing Hoare in Shields’ position was our downfall that night - now *that* was hoofing. Jarvis back in for Massey might be the extent of it. Flores did quite well and might start again. Two up top might become a plan b to introduce, which is no bad thing.
That was an exceptionally poor night indeed. I always enjoy going to Richmond, even with yellow and blue away shirts, but yes that was terrible stuff. Tbh, hoare has played in the middle before, with relative success, but that was not a good night.

Hopefully George will start to get game time earlier on or even start with two up front? He came on around 60 minutes last night? That early substitution would probably not normally happen considering they were down to ten but coming on at 75/80 can be difficult to get into the swing of the game.

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Post by El Paso » Tue May 21, 2019 9:09 am

I'm saying this with white-tinted glasses, but the tackling against us this season has been shocking - Bohs last night, Derry the other week, Sligo on the opening night, Rovers in Tallaght, Finn Harps all the time... Pats' approach and the ref's response might have a bearing too.

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Post by Ezeikial » Tue May 21, 2019 11:09 pm

A good win for St Pats at home to Derry tonight leaves them tucked in behind Derry in 5th place with only a single point between them and only 5 behind Bohs in 3rd place
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Post by shedboy4life » Wed May 22, 2019 10:44 pm

We’ve been that used to seeing a Dundalk team playing with only one up top we forget that playing with two strikers can be common.
Go with Hoban and Kelly from the start.
The natural balance of Irish football has returned for good.

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Post by lazarus » Wed May 22, 2019 10:58 pm

It's not going to happen. We've got 2 strikers signed and could possibly move D Kelly into the middle in an emergency so there's no chance of starting Hoban and G Kelly together. I was glad to see Georgie brought on earlier than usual against Bohs just after the sending off as definately upped the pressure on Bohs. However for the Pats game it'll be the usual starting system.

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Post by Ezeikial » Thu May 23, 2019 6:43 pm

Extended highlights of St Pats V Derry from Tuesday

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Re: Dundalk V St Patricks Ath | Fri 24 May | 7.45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 19

Post by oldfogey » Thu May 23, 2019 8:10 pm

Ezeikial wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 6:43 pm
Extended highlights of St Pats V Derry from Tuesday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLRm ... s0dZAX3T7w
A great shot stopper but Peter Cherrie just can't shake that Dracula reputation.

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Re: Dundalk V St Patricks Ath | Fri 24 May | 7.45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 19

Post by Ezeikial » Thu May 23, 2019 8:14 pm

Team News from St Pats website. Lee Desmond and Conor Clifford as significant absentees (if their team news is reliable)
Team News: Dundalk Vs Saints

St Patrick's Athletic travel up the M1 on Friday evening as they face reigning SSE Airtricity League champions Dundalk on Friday night in Oriel Park, kick-off 7.45pm.

The Saints will be looking for a repeat of their earlier victory over the Lilywhites in the league when a sole goal separated the sides in Inchicore back in April, Daniel Cleary putting the ball into his own net on that particular night.

The Saints head into the game off the back of a 1-0 victory on Tuesday night as a Kevin Toner goal was enough to see off Derry City and move Harry Kenny's men closer to both the Candystripes and Bohemians above them in the league table.

In team news, Saints' boss Kenny will be without trio Dean Clarke, Lee Desmond and Conor Clifford through injury, however the manager reports no further injuries following Tuesday night's 1-0 home win over Derry.

"I was pleased with the result on Tuesday night against Derry. The lads worked really hard and played some good football at times. It was good to keep another clean sheet, a good goal from a set-piece from Kevin [Toner] and now we move on quickly to face Dundalk," Kenny told stpatsfc.com.

"It will be another tough game in quick succession for us. Dundalk have been going really well in the last few weeks, and have moved to the top of the table. We have played them twice this season to date, winning one and losing one so we know what to expect from them, and know what we have to do ourselves."
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Re: Dundalk V St Patricks Ath | Fri 24 May | 7.45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 19

Post by Ezeikial » Thu May 23, 2019 9:17 pm

Sean Murray pre-match interview on DFCTV

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Re: Dundalk V St Patricks Ath | Fri 24 May | 7.45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 19

Post by Ezeikial » Fri May 24, 2019 2:47 pm

Hoare and Gannon face fitness tests. Benson and McGrath obviously still out.

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Re: Dundalk V St Patricks Ath | Fri 24 May | 7.45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 19

Post by dell1 » Fri May 24, 2019 5:55 pm

We have rode our luck a bit too much in recent weeks and have eeked out results with the odd penalty thrown in that skews how we have been in front of goal. Having Shields available should change things from the game in Inchicore but less of the early conceding a goal or injury time winners tonight please! A nice clinical performance in front of goal, be at least 2 ahead going in to the last few minutes and not shred the nerves - we can only hope!!

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Re: Dundalk V St Patricks Ath | Fri 24 May | 7.45pm | Oriel Park | Matchday 19

Post by El Paso » Fri May 24, 2019 7:34 pm

Hoare in for Cleary and the other ten that started in Cork. I realise I'm picking on him now but, again, I don't see what Mountney is doing to get a start.

What I do like is that our 6 defenders are getting time in every combination without it impacting results. It's a great thing that we'll soon be able to play any back four and expect the same standard. If Dummigan could get up to speed too so that we could rest Gannon the odd time or cover for an injury that would be perfect.

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