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Re: Dundalk Underage 13s 15s 17s and 19s

Post by Sneachta » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:15 pm

The reason I say this is because my nephew's coach has already started to recruit a number of players to replace the ones he will lose to Dundalk fc next year. It may not be as many as the whole team but there's a hell of a lot from what I gather for NEXT year

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Re: Dundalk Underage 13s 15s 17s and 19s

Post by oldfogey » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:44 pm

Sneachta wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:15 pm The reason I say this is because my nephew's coach has already started to recruit a number of players to replace the ones he will lose to Dundalk fc next year. It may not be as many as the whole team but there's a hell of a lot from what I gather for NEXT year

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And therein lies the problem. Recruitment to the local league of Ireland club can decimate a decent team. At u13s you have added problem that the kids who don't make it can struggle with the rejection.

With the gap in age groups, this years u13s are released for a year, and then try again when eligible for u15s. If successful, they end of with a different coach and different set of players each year. It's all very good for Holland when football is the main sport, but it's a different story here.

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Re: Dundalk Underage 13s 15s 17s and 19s

Post by Ezeikial » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:08 pm

oldfogey wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:44 pm And therein lies the problem. Recruitment to the local league of Ireland club can decimate a decent team. At u13s you have added problem that the kids who don't make it can struggle with the rejection.

With the gap in age groups, this years u13s are released for a year, and then try again when eligible for u15s. If successful, they end of with a different coach and different set of players each year. It's all very good for Holland when football is the main sport, but it's a different story here.
Surely the whole idea is that a gifted player stays from age 12 with the U-13's the whole way up to U-19 without gaps.

Although the player who graduates from the U-13's will be playing at U-15 level against some players who are a year older, the continuity of the training and development of the player is what is most important.
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Re: Dundalk Underage 13s 15s 17s and 19s

Post by Ezeikial » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:59 pm

It makes little sense to me from a player development perspective that an elite player prospect should alternative from local league to national league every other season from 12 years onwards.

If there is a point to having underage National Leagues, presumably it is about the best prospects playing and being trained at the highest levels possible. No matter how good the coaching is at the local league level, the concept is surely that training, strength & conditioning, diet, physio and other facilities are at a higher level at the national league clubs. Playing at the highest level possible is far more likely to develop a prospective elite player than strolling through matches against significantly weaker opposition or with more modest-ability team mates
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Re: Dundalk Underage 13s 15s 17s and 19s

Post by DundalkChampions » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:52 am

Sneachta wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:11 pm
DundalkChampions wrote:
Sneachta wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:09 pm Again, error on my clarity.

Lots of the players on the team are from the school boys league though, which is reflective of standards in fairness. As far as I'm aware nearly all of next year's 15s are from the schoolboy league as 3 or 4 are from my own nephews school boy team. Yes they will leave their schoolboy club and train exclusively with Dundalk next season. I am not trying to have an argument with anyone here and I'm not trying to antagonise in any way!


While Delaney is not flavour of the month, trying to "wrest control" from a 4/5 schoolboy clubs that have controlled youth football in this country for decades is not necessarily a bad thing. I would suggest even Brian Kerr would agree with that.

The results from the 17s/19s game? The 17s were leading 2-0.

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Only 4 of this years U-15 are from Dundalk. Dundalk have the pick of North Dublin with Malahide selection. Only the best ones from Dundalk next year will be on it
Next year's as in the current 14s

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They would be Dundalk U-14 Schoolboys squad this year. The 4 lads on U-15s this year were all on that squad last year. Only the better players will be at Dundalk Fc and rest will still play with the Schoolboys squad. The majority of next years U-15s will be from Dublin again

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Re: Dundalk Underage 13s 15s 17s and 19s

Post by Sneachta » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:19 am

Looking at the leagues, there have been some almighty thrashings at u13 level and our 15s and 17s seem to be struggling. 19s doing well.

Is it a case that the extremely good players are with SKB until at least 15, are shipped off to England, then the rest are left after for 17/19s making it more even?

I love reading the spectator in the programme each week and the final paragraph about rovers underage set up is brilliant.

"Whatever one's feelings about shamrock rovers, the existential angst they're causing among the established junior clubs in greater Dublin, upset that their exploitive financial model, based on the export of child labour, is being threatened, is to be relished. If the league is to become a viable pathway to a serious level of football for young Irish players, the underage national leagues will be key and like in the table, rovers are leading the way".

One of the best paragraphs written by the spectator and there have been a few good ones. Hits a lot of issues there.

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Re: Dundalk Underage 13s 15s 17s and 19s

Post by DundalkChampions » Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:44 am

U-15s playing half their "Home" games in Malahide.

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Re: Dundalk Underage 13s 15s 17s and 19s

Post by seand » Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:45 am

I think we are slowly building something with the underage system that will make the league a more viable prospect. It probably needs more financial support over the next 5-10 years than the FAI can provide, which is the big problem. Rovers invested a lot of time and money and received a feck load of grant money and it's paying dividends for them.

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Re: Dundalk Underage 13s 15s 17s and 19s

Post by Sneachta » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:40 pm

DundalkChampions wrote:U-15s playing half their "Home" games in Malahide.

Farce
I did realise that! [emoji50] That seems ridiculous.

Mark Devlin talks about creating more links with the community at large in his programme notes. Perhaps more needs to be done for linking players from the Dundalk and greater North East region. Maybe the players aren't there?

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Re: Dundalk Underage 13s 15s 17s and 19s

Post by Sneachta » Sat May 25, 2019 9:03 pm

Well done to our u13 girls team. Great win against the formidable peamount club. Great for female soccer in the town. We know the tribulations of the men's game but women's is in even more dire situation. And like the men's, all the best players getting hoovered up over to England.
Hard to get excited but anyone of ye who have daughters or nieces playing the game automatically have an interest in it I'm sure. Hard not to

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Re: Dundalk Underage 13s 15s 17s and 19s

Post by Sneachta » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:01 pm

Some good recent results for our underage teams lately and positive reports on the programme notes for the qarabag game. Well done to all involved. Sounds very positive

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Re: Dundalk Underage 13s 15s 17s and 19s

Post by Ezeikial » Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:16 pm

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Re: Dundalk Underage 13s 15s 17s and 19s

Post by Ezeikial » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:14 am

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Delighted to be named the new @DundalkFC U17s manager for the coming National League season can't wait to get going hard work continues
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Re: Dundalk Underage 13s 15s 17s and 19s

Post by Sneachta » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:11 pm

A good promotion for tiernan. Tough start with the u13s but brought them on a lot as the season went on. Best of luck to him with this age group.

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Re: Dundalk Underage 13s 15s 17s and 19s

Post by Ezeikial » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:47 am

Sneachta wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:11 pm A good promotion for tiernan. Tough start with the u13s but brought them on a lot as the season went on. Best of luck to him with this age group.

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I thought was coach with the u-15's last season?
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