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Post by GC. » Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:18 am

Peak11 wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:13 am I work for Americans and I know exactly what they're like. They always believe things can be improved, which is a good thing. But they also have absolutely no problem with breaking something that was working fine before they came along and blaming everyone but themselves for it.

One thing I've learned in 20+ years working for a large company is that assuming the people in charge are smart and make good decisions just because they're the people in charge is a category error.

Another thing I've learned is that it doesn't matter how badly a rich guy messes up, someone will always come out to bat for him. Right up to the point that someone will say "if they leave we're screwed" as if the "we're screwed" part is just some natural law and not entirely the fault of the people in control.
I work for Indians, and they are the exact same. They are always right, even when obviously wrong because the bigger bosses told them to do something. The issue usually arises because Indian people often say "yes" even if the answer should be "no" or "I don't know". The company actually told us that during cultural training!

I am not saying that the club is being run well. I don't have eyes on the inside. I am just identifying from my personal experience where issues occur from change of ownership, structure, processes etc in companies.

I really hope that whenever Peak6 do move on, that they leave the club in a good state. I don't see that happening at the moment, but I don't know at what stage of their plans they are at. Their plans may turn into a resounding success with European group stages every year and loads of profit, or it may flop and there will hopefully be some pieces that can be picked up. I must dig out my crystal ball!

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Post by Pepsi » Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:32 am

Louth4sam wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:04 pm
Pepsi wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:48 pm
Louth4sam wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:37 pm Why is it not an option for Peak6 to stay and run the club professionally?
Have you ever been involved in change management projects?? It is not a case of switching on a switch...it takes time, there will be mistakes made along the way and people will learn from them.
I'm a project manager so yes I have been involved with and managed multiple change management projects. Mistakes happen due to poor planning or execution. I'm not sure what change management projects you've been involved in where you think it's acceptable to make mistake after mistake.
So if you know about change management, you will also know that certain things cannot be planned for. That is especially the case when you are facing the problem of Covid, home office which I am sure the club were not infrastructurally ready for, travel restrictions for potential Peak6 employees to come over and company internals being made public. As for doing things professionally.....owners managing to sign international players, attracted JM from a safe job at the IFA, setting up an academy.....that seems professional enough for at start. Do not forget the club was historically run by volunteers with a handful of full / part time staff, that is also in the process of changing, the days of being told internals in the Avenue Inn, Tom Clarkes or at the side of a GAA pitch .... are over. Peak6 are trying to put their own people in place and keep their business inhouse, also something that shows professionality.
If you can do the job better / faster, then there is nothing stopping you contacting the club and offering your services.

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Post by Pepsi » Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:54 am

GC. wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:45 am In my working life the company I worked for was taken over. I went from 40 people in my department to about 4000. Then I was outsourced to a specialist company with 250,000 employees. Change is scary for employees. It’s mainly the uncertainty and you realise that things are not in your control at that level.

People react differently. Some don’t like the thought of change and just leave to find a new job on their terms. Some resist change and even to the point of being disruptive. They are usually pushed aside where they leave of their own accord. Others are tapped on the shoulder and made redundant. Then there are those who embrace change and work with the new company. Each time I moved it took a while to get used to new practices and processes. Some didn’t like that and left. Others are living in a bubble still referring to the initial company as who they work for. Every time someone left, there were knowledge gaps and so I can understand how it has happened within Dundalk FC.

As for Bill working for free....it doesn’t mean it is a hobby. It means he is wealthy enough to work for free and I assume try to make money for his son. It also doesn’t mean he hasn’t made any bad and even weird decisions. Americans have a different way of doing business, and some of the stuff they do won’t work in Ireland. I do think that Peak6 should have appointed someone with expertise and experience for the role, but they didn’t. The success so far has possibly saved Bill in his role. When the success stops, then I suspect Bill will be gone.

I don't know what the solution is to any issues. Bill is most likely going nowhere at the moment, and if Peak6 pull out the club is going to be a basket case.
A very solid post.......to the issue of Bill working for free......Bill Gates doesnt take a wage for the work he does, Clintons insist on all invoices being paid to their foundation and not to them personally, owner families of IKEA, Lidl and Aldi also do not take a wage / dividend directly from the companies they own. Normally when you amass such wealth you live from foundations connected to the owner structure of your company network, these are setup for tax reasons.....hence how they can make such claims.

I have said already that I suspect Peak6 are offering these young Americans coming in (to play elsewhere) scholorships, its an easy way to help these lads get the playing time needed to get Visas etc., however they also have a tax benifit back in the States from it. Regardless of how they are spinning it......it is their business and at the end of the day their money they are spending. Doubt anyone in here would accept any of us telling them how to spend their wages / savings.

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Post by GC. » Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:33 am

Peak11 wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:56 am
GC. wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:18 am I am not saying that the club is being run well. I don't have eyes on the inside. I am just identifying from my personal experience where issues occur from change of ownership, structure, processes etc in companies.
Just listen to James Rogers on the Press Box from the 33 minute mark. https://open.spotify.com/episode/4IoRwRyLCc7YMd1fHkvGYy

Listen to how he's pulling his punches and even then the few examples he gives are detailed and pretty devastating. And then Craig Colgan says back to him "there's two sides to every story" and that's this whole discussion in a nutshell. These are facts. These are things we know are happening. There's no "two sides" to it. Calling bad administration "resisting change" is a cop out.
It’s like the stuff posted here came straight from the podcast. It hasn’t offered anything new to me except that Padraig McGowan is still working his full time job. I think it was a shred appointment in getting him involved again because of his extensive knowledge of the club and league. Maybe in time he will be offered a full time role, but then again he might be thinking of his bank pension and doesn’t want it full time. Again we don’t know the story.

There is far too much emphasis put on the bloody videos. They have partnered with a production company, and the production company are doing their job. He even admits that he doesn’t know what the deal is with the partnership. So he can’t say if it is costing the club any money.

It sounds like change is taking place and change can take time.

Your idea and my idea of devastating seem to be two different things. As I said earlier people react differently to change. I can see James and yourself in some of my colleagues and ex-colleagues.

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Post by Louth4sam » Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:55 am

Pepsi wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:32 am
Louth4sam wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:04 pm
Pepsi wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:48 pm

Have you ever been involved in change management projects?? It is not a case of switching on a switch...it takes time, there will be mistakes made along the way and people will learn from them.
I'm a project manager so yes I have been involved with and managed multiple change management projects. Mistakes happen due to poor planning or execution. I'm not sure what change management projects you've been involved in where you think it's acceptable to make mistake after mistake.
So if you know about change management, you will also know that certain things cannot be planned for. That is especially the case when you are facing the problem of Covid, home office which I am sure the club were not infrastructurally ready for, travel restrictions for potential Peak6 employees to come over and company internals being made public. As for doing things professionally.....owners managing to sign international players, attracted JM from a safe job at the IFA, setting up an academy.....that seems professional enough for at start. Do not forget the club was historically run by volunteers with a handful of full / part time staff, that is also in the process of changing, the days of being told internals in the Avenue Inn, Tom Clarkes or at the side of a GAA pitch .... are over. Peak6 are trying to put their own people in place and keep their business inhouse, also something that shows professionality.
If you can do the job better / faster, then there is nothing stopping you contacting the club and offering your services.
Every single one of your posts in the defence of Peak6 are based in speculation and pie in the sky and every one of the examples of professionalism occurred in the last few months and most Since Magilton took over some of the decision making from Hulsizer. I'm pretty confident at this stage you are a Peak6 employee, as your defence of them is relentless and refuse to see damage they've (Bill) caused. You've also called ex players and ex employees liars without a shred of evidence to back it up.

What was the BCP/DR plan should Oriel offices not be available for a period of time?
Where is your evidence that peak6 wanted to bring over employees?
Did Covid bring in a manager without any experience in senior football and without the required qualifications costing the club fines in Europe?
Did Covid want to move 10 games a year to another city.
Did Covid want the goalkeeper taking throw ins
Did Covid want to install a telephone in the home dugout
Did Covid bring an agent as a special guest on a chartered plane to an away European fixture with the same agent being photographed with our rivals as they sign one of our star players
Did Covid organise an embarrassing press conference trying to fool the world that the manager was being replaced by a man who's only managerial experience in the premier league was getting two teams relegated.

And finally the biggest cliche of the lot the "if you if you think you could do a better job"....
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Post by Louth4sam » Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:12 am

GC. wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:33 am It sounds like change is taking place and change can take time.
Change can be good and in my opinion it was needed. We reached our peak if you'll exchange the pun in 2016 and it would have been impossible to progress without doing something differently. I was optimistic when Peak6 took over the club as I thought it would be catalyst to break through that glass ceiling and we did appear to be going in the right direction until Mike Tracey left and Bill Hulsizer took over.
Would you not agree that the right people need to be in place for us to progress both off and on the pitch? You're a long term poster on this forum, surely you remember threads over the years like the the pitch being stuck in Dublin port or the shed being knocked down by Gerry Matthews on a whim. Nothing we have experienced since this forum was around compared to the circus that has been around the club for the past 12 months.

I think part of the problem was it was very difficult to see what the strategy was and I genuinely feel Hulsizer was making it up as he was going along. There seems to have been a shift over the past few months and it's easier to start to draw some conclusions of what direction the club is going and I'm feeling a bit more positive about the future. I really think the club would benefit in releasing a five year/ten year strategy not only to alleviate concerns from fans (customers) but also to boost the profile of the club to sponsors, investors, players etc.

Check out this document released by Linfield recently https://www.linfieldfc.com/pdfs/Linfiel ... nt2021.pdf
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Peak11 wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:01 am
As I said earlier people react differently to change. I can see James and yourself in some of my colleagues and ex-colleagues.
"Maybe we should answer the phones?"

"You're resisting change"

"Maybe we should contact our sponsors?"

"You're resisting change"

"Maybe we should know the rules of the associations we play under?"

"You're resisting change"

"Maybe we should know the employment laws of the country we operate in?"

"You're resisting change"

"Maybe we should mind the football pitch?"

"You're resisting change"

"Maybe we should keep winning trophies?"

"You're resisting change"

We'll leave it there so GC, it sounds like someone sent you on the "Management is a Journey" cult and got their money's worth.
No, I went through the journey a few times, but it is easier to dismiss something you don't want to hear.

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Post by Louth4sam » Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:34 am

GC. wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:25 am
No, I went through the journey a few times, but it is easier to dismiss something you don't want to hear.
Isn't stakeholder engagement a fundamental component of the journey?
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Post by GC. » Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:44 am

Louth4sam wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:12 am
GC. wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:33 am It sounds like change is taking place and change can take time.
Change can be good and in my opinion it was needed. We reached our peak if you'll exchange the pun in 2016 and it would have been impossible to progress without doing something differently. I was optimistic when Peak6 took over the club as I thought it would be catalyst to break through that glass ceiling and we did appear to be going in the right direction until Mike Tracey left and Bill Hulsizer took over.
Would you not agree that the right people need to be in place for us to progress both off and on the pitch? You're a long term poster on this forum, surely you remember threads over the years like the the pitch being stuck in Dublin port or the shed being knocked down by Gerry Matthews on a whim. Nothing we have experienced since this forum was around compared to the circus that has been around the club for the past 12 months.

I think part of the problem was it was very difficult to see what the strategy was and I genuinely feel Hulsizer was making it up as he was going along. There seems to have been a shift over the past few months and it's easier to start to draw some conclusions of what direction the club is going and I'm feeling a bit more positive about the future. I really think the club would benefit in releasing a five year/ten year strategy not only to alleviate concerns from fans (customers) but also to boost the profile of the club to sponsors, investors, players etc.

Check out this document released by Linfield recently https://www.linfieldfc.com/pdfs/Linfiel ... nt2021.pdf
In fairness, the pitch was a circus too! Sean Connolly "the final piece in the jigsaw" according to then chairman. :D

I thought I made it clear, that there is someone in charge who is trying to do things the American way, which doesn't work very well in Ireland. One year contacts are a prime example of that. Players in the US seem to like them, and players here don't.

I can't say if there is a strategy or not. I certainly hope there is. With Bill not being on the ground here, then his vision is possibly not getting explained correctly. It is easier to understand someone when talking face to face, rather than phone calls/emails etc. There are a lot of cues in facial expressions etc.

Releasing a strategy (if it actually exists) would be helpful to supporters for sure, but it's also publishing information to competitors. There may be some gems in that that are new to the league and give Dundalk a competitive advantage, although they could be removed in the public version. A strategy be communicated effectively with all members of staff so they can see the vision, and can question it. Maybe it has already. Again that is an unknown. However, I really think that Bill needs to get his ass over here and run the club if that is the role he has.

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Louth4sam wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:34 am
GC. wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:25 am
No, I went through the journey a few times, but it is easier to dismiss something you don't want to hear.
Isn't stakeholder engagement a fundamental component of the journey?
It should be, but from my experience, it is usually non-existent "you're lucky to have a job", or it's half assed box ticking exercise that amounts to them telling you that you are lucky to have a job.

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Post by GC. » Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:51 am

Peak11 wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:37 am Shane Keegan on Dogan and Terique: https://www.dundalkfc.com/keegan-explains-duos-return/
“It just didn’t work out, It seemed Athlone did want to take them initially and I don’t know what changed. I just think opportunities to play were going to be more limited than we thought they were going to be. The only reason for sending players out on loan really is to get game time. It was brilliant to see Andrew Quinn involved with Bray Wanderers last weekend. That’s why you do it. Once it became apparent that game-time was going to be very, very limited then it made no sense for them to be there, the obvious thing was to just get them back training here in this environment. They can’t play until July and they both knew that,”
It is a very strange situation, and the articles headline is misleading as it doesn't explain why they returned - well maybe it does for Mohammed because he got injured. I doubt any loan agreement would specify that a player must get game time. How would that benefit the likes of Athlone? What would happen if they weren't performing? They couldn't be dropped?

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Louth4sam wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:55 am
What was the BCP/DR plan should Oriel offices not be available for a period of time?
1. Where is your evidence that peak6 wanted to bring over employees?
2. Did Covid bring in a manager without any experience in senior football and without the required qualifications costing the club fines in Europe?
3. Did Covid want to move 10 games a year to another city.
4. Did Covid want the goalkeeper taking throw ins
4. Did Covid want to install a telephone in the home dugout
5. Did Covid bring an agent as a special guest on a chartered plane to an away European fixture with the same agent being photographed with our rivals as they sign one of our star players
6. Did Covid organise an embarrassing press conference trying to fool the world that the manager was being replaced by a man who's only managerial experience in the premier league was getting two teams relegated.

And finally the biggest cliche of the lot the "if you if you think you could do a better job"....
1. Where is the evidence that they didnt??? For a project manager, you obviously dont have much experience. Most change projects I have worked in after takeovers mean the new owners send in their own people / consultants. Maybe not permanently but certainly regularly to ensure everything is moving in the right direction until the project is complete.
2. You seem to forget he replaced a manager with the same qualification, didnt see you shouting for Vinnys head the season before. They took in who they felt was the right person and available at the time on the same model which worked previously to get around the license issue........fine could have been issued to Vinny.
3. 10 games a year in the Aviva an hour up the road.....how many games do we play in Dublin if we get to Europe?? Do you boycott them??? How much more income would it offer the club if we did use the Aviva for games against Rovers, Bohs etc.??
4. Something fed to the press by an upset / bitter (former) employee by all accounts. None of us know the context of the conversations......nor do we know for a fact if they took place. As I have said before I would be very interested to hear Bills side of the story....because every story has two sides. Maybe Bill did suggest it, maybe he wanted to pressure Vinny into resigning because they didnt like him, maybe he said that is how it works in the NFL, would it be worth a try here......we dont know. What we do know is one side of it.....
5. Are you sure the mentioned agent was not involved in the signing of other players, you do realise each player represented is a new independant deal, so maybe they were trying to get someone else from his list?? Can you be sure the club wanted to keep the star players mentioned?? Again none of us know the reasoning behind it....anything else is only shit talk.
6. God and the fucking world know why the press conference was held. On one hand you complain about the €50K fine, however you also complain that they took recommended action to prevent it happening again. Make up your mind or is it a case that you just want a different Pro License manager on the line and are crying for the sake of it??

As for a Business-Continuity-Plan or a Disaster Recovery Plan if Oriels offices had to close......did they really need one??? Fans not allowed into the ground, tickets cannot be sold, merchandise could not be sold on site......trust me I know bigger international companies that didnt have a plan. As it stands the company is not making a profit, so maybe Peak6 said lets focus on X, Y and Z.....we will be picking up the loss on the other side anyway.

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Pepsi wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:49 pm
Louth4sam wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:55 am
What was the BCP/DR plan should Oriel offices not be available for a period of time?
1. Where is your evidence that peak6 wanted to bring over employees?
2. Did Covid bring in a manager without any experience in senior football and without the required qualifications costing the club fines in Europe?
3. Did Covid want to move 10 games a year to another city.
4. Did Covid want the goalkeeper taking throw ins
4. Did Covid want to install a telephone in the home dugout
5. Did Covid bring an agent as a special guest on a chartered plane to an away European fixture with the same agent being photographed with our rivals as they sign one of our star players
6. Did Covid organise an embarrassing press conference trying to fool the world that the manager was being replaced by a man who's only managerial experience in the premier league was getting two teams relegated.

And finally the biggest cliche of the lot the "if you if you think you could do a better job"....
1. Where is the evidence that they didnt??? For a project manager, you obviously dont have much experience. Most change projects I have worked in after takeovers mean the new owners send in their own people / consultants. Maybe not permanently but certainly regularly to ensure everything is moving in the right direction until the project is complete.
2. You seem to forget he replaced a manager with the same qualification, didnt see you shouting for Vinnys head the season before. They took in who they felt was the right person and available at the time on the same model which worked previously to get around the license issue........fine could have been issued to Vinny.
3. 10 games a year in the Aviva an hour up the road.....how many games do we play in Dublin if we get to Europe?? Do you boycott them??? How much more income would it offer the club if we did use the Aviva for games against Rovers, Bohs etc.??
4. Something fed to the press by an upset / bitter (former) employee by all accounts. None of us know the context of the conversations......nor do we know for a fact if they took place. As I have said before I would be very interested to hear Bills side of the story....because every story has two sides. Maybe Bill did suggest it, maybe he wanted to pressure Vinny into resigning because they didnt like him, maybe he said that is how it works in the NFL, would it be worth a try here......we dont know. What we do know is one side of it.....
5. Are you sure the mentioned agent was not involved in the signing of other players, you do realise each player represented is a new independant deal, so maybe they were trying to get someone else from his list?? Can you be sure the club wanted to keep the star players mentioned?? Again none of us know the reasoning behind it....anything else is only shit talk.
6. God and the fucking world know why the press conference was held. On one hand you complain about the €50K fine, however you also complain that they took recommended action to prevent it happening again. Make up your mind or is it a case that you just want a different Pro License manager on the line and are crying for the sake of it??

As for a Business-Continuity-Plan or a Disaster Recovery Plan if Oriels offices had to close......did they really need one??? Fans not allowed into the ground, tickets cannot be sold, merchandise could not be sold on site......trust me I know bigger international companies that didnt have a plan. As it stands the company is not making a profit, so maybe Peak6 said lets focus on X, Y and Z.....we will be picking up the loss on the other side anyway.
1. I didn't make the statement you did. Back it up instead of whataboutary and speculation
2. He replaced a manager that worked with the club during it's most successful era that fulfilled the necessary criteria to manage in the league. If you are also pushing the narrative that it was also an issue for Vinny are you saying that they made the same mistake twice??
3. This is clear proof that you are not a Dundalk fan and just a stooge. No Dundalk fan would be happy with games played 85KM away from our home stadium
4. Multiple sources saying the same thing, not just Perth and and none have a reason to lie. Why are you only willing to believe Bills side of the story even though it very well might be the exact same except in your head. Bill has not refuted anything that was said. It's unusual how vocal he has been in the papers regarding the FAI and IRFU but radio silence when it comes to refuting claims from ex staff, players etc. radio silence.
5. Why was he brought on a corporate trip unless it was to carry favour. Bill hardly invited him along as a drinking buddy
6. Everyone knows why it was held and it was an embarrassment. Nobody was fooled. "Recommended action"? Who recommended this action

Yes, of course they needed one. There is more to the club than just selling tickets. There is a magnitude of administrative tasks that need to be conducted. What would happen if there was a massive ESB failure in the area and the club was without power for a few days. What if part of the 1960s structure collapsed and the offices were unusable? What if there was a leak which flooded the offices? Do we stop conducting business?
The company was making a small profit year on year from 2013 until Peak6 took over so who's fault is it if the club are now loss making?
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Post by magarnagle » Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:58 pm

If only there was some sort of Official Takeover Thread for this type of discussion....

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Post by niall_hearty2000 » Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:08 pm

Pepsi wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:49 pm
Louth4sam wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:55 am
What was the BCP/DR plan should Oriel offices not be available for a period of time?
1. Where is your evidence that peak6 wanted to bring over employees?
2. Did Covid bring in a manager without any experience in senior football and without the required qualifications costing the club fines in Europe?
3. Did Covid want to move 10 games a year to another city.
4. Did Covid want the goalkeeper taking throw ins
4. Did Covid want to install a telephone in the home dugout
5. Did Covid bring an agent as a special guest on a chartered plane to an away European fixture with the same agent being photographed with our rivals as they sign one of our star players
6. Did Covid organise an embarrassing press conference trying to fool the world that the manager was being replaced by a man who's only managerial experience in the premier league was getting two teams relegated.

And finally the biggest cliche of the lot the "if you if you think you could do a better job"....
1. Where is the evidence that they didnt??? For a project manager, you obviously dont have much experience. Most change projects I have worked in after takeovers mean the new owners send in their own people / consultants. Maybe not permanently but certainly regularly to ensure everything is moving in the right direction until the project is complete.
2. You seem to forget he replaced a manager with the same qualification, didnt see you shouting for Vinnys head the season before. They took in who they felt was the right person and available at the time on the same model which worked previously to get around the license issue........fine could have been issued to Vinny.
3. 10 games a year in the Aviva an hour up the road.....how many games do we play in Dublin if we get to Europe?? Do you boycott them??? How much more income would it offer the club if we did use the Aviva for games against Rovers, Bohs etc.??
4. Something fed to the press by an upset / bitter (former) employee by all accounts. None of us know the context of the conversations......nor do we know for a fact if they took place. As I have said before I would be very interested to hear Bills side of the story....because every story has two sides. Maybe Bill did suggest it, maybe he wanted to pressure Vinny into resigning because they didnt like him, maybe he said that is how it works in the NFL, would it be worth a try here......we dont know. What we do know is one side of it.....
5. Are you sure the mentioned agent was not involved in the signing of other players, you do realise each player represented is a new independant deal, so maybe they were trying to get someone else from his list?? Can you be sure the club wanted to keep the star players mentioned?? Again none of us know the reasoning behind it....anything else is only shit talk.
6. God and the fucking world know why the press conference was held. On one hand you complain about the €50K fine, however you also complain that they took recommended action to prevent it happening again. Make up your mind or is it a case that you just want a different Pro License manager on the line and are crying for the sake of it??

As for a Business-Continuity-Plan or a Disaster Recovery Plan if Oriels offices had to close......did they really need one??? Fans not allowed into the ground, tickets cannot be sold, merchandise could not be sold on site......trust me I know bigger international companies that didnt have a plan. As it stands the company is not making a profit, so maybe Peak6 said lets focus on X, Y and Z.....we will be picking up the loss on the other side anyway.
Come on the feck now Pepsi. U lost me straight away on number 3. We are Dundalk fc we play in Dundalk our support is from Dundalk and surrounding town lands we are not a D4 project. We most certainly are not a franchise like the Raiders who started off life in Oakland California from 1960-81 and then Los Angeles from 82-94 back to Oakland from 95 - 2019 and from 2020 now play in Las Vegas Nevada. We aren't a play toy. This isn't the NFL, where owners move their club when it suits them because the city mayor etc isn't playing ball and giving them what they want. Sure why don't we build a stadium in Dunleer then for Dundalk and Drogheda to share.. Not a hope these will happen and if they did neither would be well supported. We accept we have to move certain games to Tallaght or the Aviva because oriel is a dump, but not a chance in hell any of us would be in favour of moving league games to the Aviva. If you really are in favour of that in you need to take a look at supporting rovers
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