Europe .... looking back and forward to 2023

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Europe .... looking back and forward to 2023

Post by seand » Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:29 am

I normally like to get a European thread up and running at the end of the season, looking forward to the following summer's Euro exploits. Spoiler alert..... we've not qualified this time, so this thread looks forward to potential Euro football in 2023-24 and back and some of what we achieved recently.

First things first... missing out is crap for many reasons, and it means our coefficient will be compromised if we do get back in. Obviously we pick up 0 points in 2022, the 'good' news is that the 5 year rolling aggregate UEFA use means our coefficient will only drop by 1 point as 2017-18 (first round defeat to Rosenborg) is dropped for 2023-24 calculations. So we know we would go in with 8.5 points instead of the 9.5 we would have brought into 2022. 8.5 points was enough to be seeded (just about) in the first three rounds of the Conference League this season (and comfortably in the first round of the Champions League). If we can qualify again next season we're still in a great position to build on past performances.

Even another season out of Europe in 2023-24 would still see us carry enough coefficient into 2024-25 to be seeded in one round of CL or 2 rounds of ECL. We remain a 'big' clubs among the minnows, and whether they like it or not it's very bad news for the rest of the league when Dundalk miss out on Europe as we are the team carrying the coefficient for the rest of the league.

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Re: Europe .... looking back and forward to 2023

Post by seand » Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:34 am

So looking back, some things we've achieved, and some things we've fallen short on.

Consecutive European qualifying
Shels 12 95-06 * inc 2x Intertoto
Rovers 8+ 2015-22
Dundalk 8 2014-21
Rovers 8 1962-69
Bohs 6 1974-79
Pat's 6 2011-16
Cork 5 2015-19
Cork 5 2004-08 * inc 2x Intertoto

Was quite surprised to see Shels qualified 12 seasons in a row. We stall at 8 when it looked like it would go on forever!

Slightly facetious claims on achievements:
Group appearances
Dundalk 2
,Shamrock Rovers 1

Group points
Dundalk 4
,Everyone else 0

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Re: Europe .... looking back and forward to 2023

Post by seand » Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:37 am

Something we got no credit for in 2020, becoming the first Irish club ever to win three rounds in Europe (Inter-Club, Sheriff, KI). We were also the first to win two round (1979: Linfield, Hibs Malta)

Most rounds won
3 Dundalk 2020
2 Dundalk 79
, Shels 04, Cork 05, Derry 06, Pats 08, Pats 09, Rovers 11, Pats 11, Pats 12, Dundalk 16, Cork 16, Dundalk 21, Bohs 21

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Re: Europe .... looking back and forward to 2023

Post by seand » Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:41 am

I mentioned this before but arguably our greatest achievement in Europe is that we've never lost to an opponent from a lower ranked country. We have a 100% record against teams from Iceland (2), Estonia (2), Luxemborg (2), Latvia, N Ireland, Wales, Andorra, Faroes, Moldova, Malta

Over the years all of the other major clubs have had their nightmares- Bohs (Levadia, TNS, Riga, Thor), Cork (Haka, KR, Progres), Pats (Zimbru, Zalgiris), Rovers (Linfield, Ekranas, Odds, Levadia), Shels (Akranes, Hibs Malta)

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Re: Europe .... looking back and forward to 2023

Post by mike » Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:42 am

Good post Sean, we may have lost away to Fram (Ice) 2-1 in 1981 but battered them 4-0 at home to win 5-2 on agg, but you are abs right on winning all of those 'ties'.

Another interesting stat, we have never lost a competitive game to Linfield, 6 games in total, 2 in europe, 2 in setanta, 2 in Unite Union, 3 wins (2 away) and 3 draws.

Very good point on 2020 winning 3 rounds, they have may been single games but all bar one were away matches and one was a huge scalp, Sherrif. We did get almost zero credit, I think Daniel McD was the only one from the media who even picked that point up, first Irish club to win 3 rounds.

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