Shamrock Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 11 | Mon 18 April 2022 ko 19.00

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Re: Shamrock Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 11 | Mon 18 April 2022 ko 19.00

Post by dundalkfc1903 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:39 pm

Hadnt seen a.lot of St Pat's under skip but I am incredibly surprised at how negative our style is, against every team. Ultra conservative and to be honest , very boring.

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Re: Shamrock Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 11 | Mon 18 April 2022 ko 19.00

Post by southerncomfort » Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:53 pm

we'd have lost this 3-0 early last season , apart from ( clearly not match fit ) garts , all ok performances , dust down move on . strange to not have a striker for long spells, but maybe no choice given injury's

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Re: Shamrock Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 11 | Mon 18 April 2022 ko 19.00

Post by Midfield11 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:53 pm

Everything about that game was bad, from the team selection to our inability to string a few passes together, on the plus side I don’t think we will play that bad again.

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Re: Shamrock Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 11 | Mon 18 April 2022 ko 19.00

Post by Towelie » Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:54 pm

Toothless.

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Re: Shamrock Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 11 | Mon 18 April 2022 ko 19.00

Post by dundalkfc1903 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:57 pm

Honestly, if Vinny was in charge and the performances were this bad the forum would be hopping with posters saying he's clueless.

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Re: Shamrock Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 11 | Mon 18 April 2022 ko 19.00

Post by Towelie » Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:02 pm

It was as bad as the team selection suggested. Not bad defensively but your not gonna score much with your most dangerous players on the bench. Simple as. It didn't make much sense at all and ultimately backfired.

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Re: Shamrock Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 11 | Mon 18 April 2022 ko 19.00

Post by Louth4sam » Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:49 pm

dundalkfc1903 wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:57 pm Honestly, if Vinny was in charge and the performances were this bad the forum would be hopping with posters saying he's clueless.
A bit of context though. Squad was assembled fairly quickly due to the managerial situation and it was more or less a rebuild on a much reduced budget. Vinny inherited one of the greatest team ever seen in the league. If we are putting in performances like this next season I'll be worried.
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Re: Shamrock Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 11 | Mon 18 April 2022 ko 19.00

Post by dundalkfc1903 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:18 pm

Louth4sam wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:49 pm
dundalkfc1903 wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:57 pm Honestly, if Vinny was in charge and the performances were this bad the forum would be hopping with posters saying he's clueless.
A bit of context though. Squad was assembled fairly quickly due to the managerial situation and it was more or less a rebuild on a much reduced budget. Vinny inherited one of the greatest team ever seen in the league. If we are putting in performances like this next season I'll be worried.
Not really what I meant. If Vinny had that squad or a squad of equal quality at his disposal, and the performances were that bad then he would be getting hammered. Can you imagine what James Rogers would be doing on his next podcast!!

It's a smart appointment, he's so popular that once we're not in a relegation battle it will be deemed successful.

But that style of play won't be attracting any fair weather supporters and I can see attendances dropping off substantially.

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Re: Shamrock Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 11 | Mon 18 April 2022 ko 19.00

Post by White Horse » Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:40 pm

I am looking forward to hearing Skip's reasons for the team selection and formation. I thought the team that was selected did their best and caused Rovers some problems early on. If it was not for a ridiculous slide-rule pass from Byrne, they could have come way with a point.

Having said that, why not go to Tallaght with an attacking formation made up of our best players? That is the bit I don't understand. Rovers are no great shakes. I would rather try to win the game and be beaten, than resign ourselves to a inevitable loss. Should Skip have been more ambitious?

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Re: Shamrock Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 11 | Mon 18 April 2022 ko 19.00

Post by oldfogey » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:07 am

Gavin's interview with Stephen O'Donnell

https://twitter.com/DundalkFC/status/15 ... 7EUnA&s=19

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Re: Shamrock Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 11 | Mon 18 April 2022 ko 19.00

Post by Quayman » Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:10 am

The worst was rovers where there to be beaten. They were cat and lacked ideas, we did get at them at times at the back.

Still im bemused davey mac didnt start so shows sod doesnt 'fancy' him.
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Re: Shamrock Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 11 | Mon 18 April 2022 ko 19.00

Post by Louth4sam » Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:44 am

dundalkfc1903 wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:18 pm
Louth4sam wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:49 pm
dundalkfc1903 wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:57 pm Honestly, if Vinny was in charge and the performances were this bad the forum would be hopping with posters saying he's clueless.
A bit of context though. Squad was assembled fairly quickly due to the managerial situation and it was more or less a rebuild on a much reduced budget. Vinny inherited one of the greatest team ever seen in the league. If we are putting in performances like this next season I'll be worried.
Not really what I meant. If Vinny had that squad or a squad of equal quality at his disposal, and the performances were that bad then he would be getting hammered.
That's fair enough and I think O'Donnell has been called out a bit here. Tactics, formation and team selection was very poor yesterday and if we were a bit braver we may have gotten something from the game. Inviting that much possession on to you is usually punished and it's a measure of how well we've been defending over the past few games and how much Rovers have regressed that it wasn't punished more.
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Re: Shamrock Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 11 | Mon 18 April 2022 ko 19.00

Post by seand » Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:34 am

It was all very odd and frustrating. I wonder how much injury dictated the shape and tactics. Were Hoban/Boyle not fit for 90 mins? Both were on the bench. If Hoban needs to be rested/rotated then surely McMillan is a better option for one up top in a defensive 4231. It's hard to argue with setting up fairly conservatively when you're away to the best team in the country and defence has been our strength all season, but the super conservative style and odd line-up made it hard to get at a really mediocre Rovers side who haven't got going this season at all. We were missing our best attacking threat in Benson (injured), and our second best attacking threat Bradley, our only real striker Hoban and a consistent defensive rock Boyle all voluntarily it seems, and we still could easily have gotten something out of that game.

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Re: Shamrock Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 11 | Mon 18 April 2022 ko 19.00

Post by Johnnybegood33 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:57 am

Excellent interview from Stephen . We have had . great days in Tallaght in recent years , & we go there expecting to win . Rovers just got over the line . The reality was , that we were missing Robbie & we need Mountenay back . It seemed the lads were a bit tired , & Rovers seemed a bit quicker to the ball. It is a work in progress . One disappointing thing for me , was the amount of times the pass didn’t find a Dundalk man . That is the first thing that needs to be looked at , in the video . They lacked composure on the ball . I would say the ball was given away well over 20 times or more , ( unforced errors ). When you do that ,you are inviting the opposition to come at you . So the two things for me , Don’t give away the ball cheaply , find a man . Even Shepard kicked it straight to a Rovers player ( short kick out ) & composure in front of goal . We know Davy & Pat have that , so we look at this is a minor bump & a big learning curve . All teams are going to be taking points of each other , look at Derry dropping 5 points in last 2 . A long way to go. Heads up & onwards & upwards . Cmon the Town.👍

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Re: Shamrock Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 11 | Mon 18 April 2022 ko 19.00

Post by Martin Lawlor80 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:28 am

A lot to unpick in that game and most of it mentioned in posts above. Squad needs to be rotated and our 2 starting MF were injured. Rovers rotated too with Gannon getting a start but I wonder what he thinks of his rovers’ career, he was hooked at HT. RT added nothing to them either. That striker they brought on is a different story, we found it hard to cope with his pace.
I thought we were reasonably comfortable, they had one chance and took it. We definitely need to work on our attitude and composure. The amount of misplaced passes or wrong balls played especially when we were on the break was criminal. I suppose that comes with a young squad. SOD mentioned it in his interview, he can see it. Our players need to realise that they wouldn’t be at the club if they weren’t good players.
If we get 6 points from the next matches this one will be forgotten about.

LOI refereeing again. They guy last night had a great game for 70 minutes. Let the game go and didn’t give unnecessary yellows, instead decided to have a word with the player. Then he goes and gives Garts 2 yellows within five minutes . He could have be consistent and handed out 1 yellow and a warning.

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