Sligo Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 19 (re-scheduled) | Mon 29 Aug 2022 ko 19.45

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Re: Sligo Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 19 (re-scheduled) | Mon 29 Aug 2022 ko 19.45

Post by Wexford White » Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:23 pm

For me just listening to the Sligo commentary added to the pain.
Years ago I had a friend who had the nickname "Thrush" because he was considered an irritating c##t. I wonder is he related to Joseph Ndo?
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Re: Sligo Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 19 (re-scheduled) | Mon 29 Aug 2022 ko 19.45

Post by Benjani » Mon Sep 05, 2022 7:33 pm

See there is a possibility of this result being reversed and us getting the 3 points. Apparently Sligo played a suspended player. They are fighting it though.
Heard it from Dan McDonnell on Newstalk a few minutes ago


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Re: Sligo Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 19 (re-scheduled) | Mon 29 Aug 2022 ko 19.45

Post by Towelie » Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:53 pm

This would be massive for our European hopes

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Post by oldfogey » Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:18 pm

Towelie wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:53 pm This would be massive for our European hopes
Also affects Sligo's attempt to chase down Pat's. Coincidentally the hearing into Shels v Pat's fiasco was supposed to have taken place last Friday.

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Re: Sligo Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 19 (re-scheduled) | Mon 29 Aug 2022 ko 19.45

Post by Weelilywhite » Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:30 pm

I cannot see the FAI giving us the 3 points. May order a re match or suspend the player for a longer spell. Whether St Pats play in Europe next year could well depend on the 2 FAI rulings. That would be controversial. Do you experts feel that we lodge an objection or did the FAI pick it up.

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Re: Sligo Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 19 (re-scheduled) | Mon 29 Aug 2022 ko 19.45

Post by oldfogey » Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:42 pm

Weelilywhite wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:30 pm I cannot see the FAI giving us the 3 points. May order a re match or suspend the player for a longer spell. Whether St Pats play in Europe next year could well depend on the 2 FAI rulings. That would be controversial. Do you experts feel that we lodge an objection or did the FAI pick it up.
The penalty for fielding an ineligible player is

a) awarding a 3-0 win to the opposition or
b) docked 3 points if the original result was a loss anyway.

Clubs can't just ignore a suspension and benefit from it. Otherwise the suspensions mean nothing. It would appear Sligo might be trying the old "he wasn't on the published list" excuse. Clubs are notified directly about suspensions, that's the only list that counts. The FAI's Disciplinary Committee are hardly likely to go after Sligo unless they are sure they had it right.

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Re: Sligo Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 19 (re-scheduled) | Mon 29 Aug 2022 ko 19.45

Post by Martin Lawlor80 » Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:40 pm

With the FAI’s history of screwing us over, I won’t be getting my hopes up.

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Re: Sligo Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 19 (re-scheduled) | Mon 29 Aug 2022 ko 19.45

Post by Johnnybegood33 » Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:28 am

The player was suspended, & should not have played . Penalty 3-0 win awarded to Dundalk .

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Re: Sligo Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 19 (re-scheduled) | Mon 29 Aug 2022 ko 19.45

Post by mike » Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:35 am

Weelilywhite wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:30 pm I cannot see the FAI giving us the 3 points. May order a re match or suspend the player for a longer spell. Whether St Pats play in Europe next year could well depend on the 2 FAI rulings. That would be controversial. Do you experts feel that we lodge an objection or did the FAI pick it up.
It seems this was picked up by FAI / League on a simple case of team sheet submitted and sent in, then verifying the list of suspensions, he was on it, hence the charge, I don't think Dundalk were involved.

Also it seems a follow up list was sent after one sent previously that he was not on it, hearing this is the defence Sligo are making, but at the same time it seems they missed the updated list sent, the decision will probably be decided on that, if it goes against Sligo, they lose the game 3-0 per rules, and we get the points (and the GD).

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Re: Sligo Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 19 (re-scheduled) | Mon 29 Aug 2022 ko 19.45

Post by seand » Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:32 am

I don't think there's much wriggle room here, I'd expect the 3 points. Sligo are claiming they got "contradictory communication" from the FAI.... that's an admission that they were informed of the suspension on the one hand, I wonder what contradictory information they got on the other hand? Did they query it? Unless they've got commmunication that very explicitly says 'we made a mistake, the player is not suspended' they won't have much of an argument.

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Re: Sligo Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 19 (re-scheduled) | Mon 29 Aug 2022 ko 19.45

Post by Towelie » Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:54 pm

I'd imagine the FAI wouldn't make the charge if they didn't have proof of the suspension being communicated, although this is the FAI we're talking about. If Sligo are referring to the suspension lists that are given to the press then I don't think they have much of a leg to stand on.

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Re: Sligo Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 19 (re-scheduled) | Mon 29 Aug 2022 ko 19.45

Post by seand » Tue Sep 06, 2022 2:26 pm

Apparently one of the Bohs players was suspended at the weekend, but not listed on the press suspension list. Bohs didn't play him.

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Re: Sligo Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 19 (re-scheduled) | Mon 29 Aug 2022 ko 19.45

Post by oldfogey » Tue Sep 06, 2022 3:50 pm

Towelie wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:54 pm I'd imagine the FAI wouldn't make the charge if they didn't have proof of the suspension being communicated, although this is the FAI we're talking about. If Sligo are referring to the suspension lists that are given to the press then I don't think they have much of a leg to stand on.
I've seen a comment - presumably from a Sligo fan - that confirms McDonnell was due a cumulative yellow card suspension, not sure if it was for 5 or 8. He wasn't on the original list from the FAI, but was on a subsequent one. By claiming they were conflicting, Sligo are admitting to having received both and effectively hung themselves. You would have to assume John Russell knew about this but was convinced by someone in the office that it would be fine. You would wonder why Sligo didn't question it with Blanchardstown, unless they already knew the answer.
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Re: Sligo Rovers v Dundalk | League Round 19 (re-scheduled) | Mon 29 Aug 2022 ko 19.45

Post by Johnnybegood33 » Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:09 pm

It looks like on there own admission, that they have admitted the offence , so it’s a stonewall case . There is no way the FAI would allege the offence without a proof .

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