2023 Season General Thread

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Safe to say that’s this year done and dusted would take a miracle at this stage to get Europe now. All eyes to the cup but I think without at least making the final Stevie could be on borrowed time. Don’t think he should be pushed just yet myself but tension is definitely building. Would like to see him give game time to a few of the 19s if we’re left with a couple of dead rubbers see what’s there. Frustrating to see young players never gettin a chance it’s almost as if the owners view the academy as a tick the box for licensing or somethin
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Stevie needed two seasons minimum to assemble a squad and get them to buy into his system. I think we're in trouble, we'll need to win all those head to heads against Bohs, Pats and Shels to have a chance. Not impossible, but it's a tall ask.

I'm more than happy for him to stay in charge for next season and let that be the decider. If he can't get a tune out of a team with Horgan and Hoban in the attack then it might be time to move on but I hope (and don't think) it will come to that.
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Towelie wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 3:19 pm Stevie needed two seasons minimum to assemble a squad and get them to buy into his system. I think we're in trouble, we'll need to win all those head to heads against Bohs, Pats and Shels to have a chance. Not impossible, but it's a tall ask.

I'm more than happy for him to stay in charge for next season and let that be the decider. If he can't get a tune out of a team with Horgan and Hoban in the attack then it might be time to move on but I hope (and don't think) it will come to that.
It's hard to build and sustain momentum when you have to change the majority of the squad at the end of each season. Too many loan signings will kill us.
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Malley,Davies ,Annesley, Brownlie ,Muller were all signed on multi year deals. They brought in a few loans but that wasn't the making or breaking of things. Other clubs have loans. Poom,Kenny and Trevor Clarke at Shamrock Rovers.
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Pretty much just Johannes on loan now, we have the rest on multi year deals, so hopefully we can keep/discard the right ones.

Replacing Shepperd, if he leaves, could be tricky. I don't think the turnover will be as drastic as last season.
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I think Durrant is only til end of season .
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I see Sami Ben Amar is a free agent again. Had been playing in 4th tier in France.

Rayhaan Tulloch joined Bradford on loan for the season on deadline day.
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Richie87 wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:11 pm I see Sami Ben Amar is a free agent again. Had been playing in 4th tier in France.
I'd completely forgotten about this guy.
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the leeway sod gets because he was a great player/people don't want to admit they were wrong etc... is weird , but useful ... a managerial change now / next season would be the wrong move unless it's an experienced / winning manager with a very strong budget

sod is the best decision the owners have made , he provides them with cover and he can do no wrong in most peoples eyes . we're lucky to have him

but a reality check would be nice . Kenny era legacy has been squandered . all those who chased p6 out with pitchforks will pretend (/convince themselves) that the present owners are better than the p6 billionaires circus , , but while hullsizer was the wrong chairman , , they had ambition + funds and we shouldn't have thrown the baby out with the bath water

at least we have 'local' owners though ....

hopefully we can work a miracle and get europe . if we don't . it's shameful that we've squandered the legacy
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They had more money that sense. Lavish contract for Zahibo and Jim Magilton. Dundalk went through 3 or 4 managers in their final year as owners. They didn't get Europe that year, so the legacy was tarnished then
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Richie87 wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 1:25 pm They had more money that sense. Lavish contract for Zahibo and Jim Magilton. Dundalk went through 3 or 4 managers in their final year as owners. They didn't get Europe that year, so the legacy was tarnished then
Yes a shite show of contract offers under Buffalo Bill given Magilton the italians Zahibo and his like them contracts along with offering shorter term deals to key players, but still offering and paying big wages. But rewind it and look at southern comforts points. They also offered lavish contracts to Duffy mceleany shields Dummigan georgie kelly and basically anyone that Kenny/Perth wanted, we can only dream of having pick of LOI like Kenny and perth had and thats what Stevie doesn't have to his advantage. Not outbid for many/any players in 2018- 2019 -2020. Its accepted we can't really compete with Rovers derry pats and even Bohs/Shels seem to be able to attract League of Ireland based players ahead of us under current ownership.

I see ex president of supporters club Brendan Ogle making points online, about uncertainty and the club off the field etc . If the club are unsuccessfully touting to investors with no european money and no billionaires to fall back on A lot coming over the hill.

On the field at the minute lies with Stevie though, club have backed him with a team that should be higher than 6th .
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Instead of paying out 6 figure sums on Zahibo, who offered us absolutely nothing, they could have spent that money on some ground improvements. That may have enhanced their legacy...slightly!
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colymull wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:14 pm Instead of paying out 6 figure sums on Zahibo, who offered us absolutely nothing, they could have spent that money on some ground improvements. That may have enhanced their legacy...slightly!
Something that is conveniently forgotten about Peak 6 is they are the only owners to spend any sort of decent money on facilities.
They spent thousands on the new gym, changing rooms, etc in the YDC.
Despite getting nearly 7 million in European money in 2016, not one cent was put by the then owners to the ground, the didn't even fix the the puddle behind the town end goals, that had to wait until peak 6.

The club is currently in a very bad place financially.
Someone outside the club is paying for Horgan, and if there isn't major outside investment soon the club is in big trouble.
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Dundalk10 wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 8:43 pm
colymull wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:14 pm Instead of paying out 6 figure sums on Zahibo, who offered us absolutely nothing, they could have spent that money on some ground improvements. That may have enhanced their legacy...slightly!
Something that is conveniently forgotten about Peak 6 is they are the only owners to spend any sort of decent money on facilities.
They spent thousands on the new gym, changing rooms, etc in the YDC.
Despite getting nearly 7 million in European money in 2016, not one cent was put by the then owners to the ground, the didn't even fix the the puddle behind the town end goals, that had to wait until peak 6.

The club is currently in a very bad place financially.
Someone outside the club is paying for Horgan, and if there isn't major outside investment soon the club is in big trouble.
How much was this forced due to the 70% on wages rule?
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Is that true re Horgan’s wages being paid by another party? Do the FAI allow that or is it just another DFC rumour?
I thought it was accepted that we were able to go for him because we beat Bruno’s Magpies
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