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southerncomfort wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:52 pm
Pepsi wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:24 pm Lads calm down, we have what 90% of the fan base wanted and that is local ownership even in the knowledge that money would be tight. No mad American capitalists or mad old Bills with bags of money and a few mad cap ideas to spend it on. I am sure our current owners will do the right thing and hand us on to perfect new owners with the required financial clout should they decide to sell up and leave us with a handsome amount in the bank to help the new ownership get started.
peak 7 showed early signs of shambolic incompetence , indecision , poor judgment , poor communication skills and it continued

let's hope the new crowd aren't peak 8

anyone who decides to own a club is going to be a bit mad . the important thing is their madness is backed up by very deep pockets

Pepsi , as you've said from day one , chasing p6 away was stupid.
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southerncomfort wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:53 pm
southerncomfort wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:52 pm
Pepsi wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:24 pm Lads calm down, we have what 90% of the fan base wanted and that is local ownership even in the knowledge that money would be tight. No mad American capitalists or mad old Bills with bags of money and a few mad cap ideas to spend it on. I am sure our current owners will do the right thing and hand us on to perfect new owners with the required financial clout should they decide to sell up and leave us with a handsome amount in the bank to help the new ownership get started.
peak 7 showed early signs of shambolic incompetence , indecision , poor judgment , poor communication skills and it continued

let's hope the new crowd aren't peak 8

anyone who decides to own a club is going to be a bit mad . the important thing is their madness is backed up by very deep pockets

Pepsi , as you've said from day one , chasing p6 away was stupid.
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Didn't Peak 6 voluntarily sell the club. They owned something and they decided to sell. If they wanted to stay and run it properly, then I'm sure a billionaire would not be put off by a few fans protesting.

This poor Peak 6 stuff is embarrassing. Nobody held a gun to their head. They chose to sell up. Or were they scared of a few 18.year olds singing songs
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SS did virtually nothing but steady the ship, it was clear from last summer (2022) they had no cash to invest or were not going to, either way I found their ownership led thing very disappointing.

Whoever takes over will also have to deal with a big loss, 1.3M or so was in the bank end of 2021 but a huge amount of bills had to be paid and that was never going to last.

New owners whoever they are won't have any cash at bank at the club thats for sure, so will all depend on what they can invest, on what budget we have for 2024.

Hard to know what to make of things until any pending change of ownership happens, if it doesn't things are sounding a bit bleak, they still could be.
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Hearing its the crowd stats ports beat to the takeover. Ex Sunderland consortium with a few nordies added in!
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Quayman wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:13 pm Hearing its the crowd stats ports beat to the takeover. Ex Sunderland consortium with a few nordies added in!
Yeah I've seen Mags Byrne mentioned a few times, she owns FFP. Former Sunderland CEO who was sacked because of the Adam Johnson scandal.

Can't say this northern consortium fill me with any confidence but until something's announced then it's all hearsay.
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seand wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:00 pm This isn't a good look

“Nobody has offers. We need to know where we stand, all of that type of thing, in regards offers to players. We’ll have a sit down and hopefully have a meeting (with the owners) at some stage”

https://t.co/zXlXHFnQzK
Article reaffirms Kelly to Derry link and suggests Sloggett could be off to Shels too. Words from SOD in this piece very alarming, won't be here next season surely..
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None of us know really what's going on. There are loads of different rumours being bandied about. No matter what, it's safe to say we do need a new direction and investment. For whatever reason it hasn't worked with statsports. From the outside looking in, they seemed very reluctant to spend or invest any of their own money in the club. Maybe they have and we don't know about it. But that doesn't appear to be the case.
Who knows what the future holds. If we do revert back to part-time it is a travesty when you look at we got the group stages of Europe twice in the last 7 years. And only missed out on European football once in the last 10 yrs, well twice in 11 after this season. If we do revert back to part-time it could well signal the demise of the club as attendance figures will significantly drop (we are the only Premier division side whose figures haven't improved post COVID) and our ability to sign better players will tail off as well. No matter who takes us over, without serious Government, FAI, and town or County council investment, we appear to be light years away from any ground redevelopments. But hey they left us with a video graphic of what a possible redesign might look like so Bravo to statsports! The baffling thing is there were protests wanting our club back under peak 6. Why are they so silent now?
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Assuming it's part time/ hybrid if current ownership remains in charge. If new owners come in you would think full time, unless we get another owner with no cash, which would be fairly pointless.

Heard Brett Desmond was buying it. Dermot Desmond's son and husband of Andrea Corr.
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dundalkfc1903 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:55 am Assuming it's part time/ hybrid if current ownership remains in charge. If new owners come in you would think full time, unless we get another owner with no cash, which would be fairly pointless.

Heard Brett Desmond was buying it. Dermot Desmond's son and husband of Andrea Corr.
Wasn't he linked in some way previously? Or maybe I'm making that up. New owners will have same debt as current so unless whoever it is comes with a massive injection of cash we'll be on a shoestring budget regardless. Seen this morning assuming we don't make europe we'll have made it 9 out of 11 seasons and zero to show for any of it
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I've seen that said a few times about nothing to show for our European runs.
What if the owners had not kept the successful squads together and said we are instead investing X amount into Oriel and other facilities. Say McEleney and Shields went to Rovers instead of offering improved contracts to keep them....what would the fan response have been?!
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dundalkfc1903 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:31 am I've seen that said a few times about nothing to show for our European runs.
What if the owners had not kept the successful squads together and said we are instead investing X amount into Oriel and other facilities. Say McEleney and Shields went to Rovers instead of offering improved contracts to keep them....what would the fan response have been?!
There would have been plenty of bitching and moaning but ultimatly if they were outside of our budget, they were outside of our budget.

I think there was enough money to do both. After expenses we earned €3.5M in 2016. A third of that should have been put towards infrastructure in Oriel at the very least. It's also a shame we didn't look at investing in the Derryhale or even look at a bar in town to raise revenue outside of match nights.
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Some good rumours floating about hoban on various supporters groups.
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Feels like we've gone back in time to November 2021. All the uncertainty and the chaos of the Dundalk rumour mill. I don't believe the post about Hoban on facebook personally. Hopefully it's a load of sh*te, but you have to wonder what people get from spreading this type of thing.
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Louth4sam wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:08 pm
dundalkfc1903 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:31 am I've seen that said a few times about nothing to show for our European runs.
What if the owners had not kept the successful squads together and said we are instead investing X amount into Oriel and other facilities. Say McEleney and Shields went to Rovers instead of offering improved contracts to keep them....what would the fan response have been?!
There would have been plenty of bitching and moaning but ultimatly if they were outside of our budget, they were outside of our budget.

I think there was enough money to do both. After expenses we earned €3.5M in 2016. A third of that should have been put towards infrastructure in Oriel at the very least. It's also a shame we didn't look at investing in the Derryhale or even look at a bar in town to raise revenue outside of match nights.
Ye I agree. If we've blown near €10 million on players wages in 11 seasons that's just terrible budgeting. There was enough cash about to do both. Not buying that excuse. Different if you'd top notch facilities already with huge maintenance costs, but surely you'd put money aside as leverage for a loan for development works if you were bothered enough
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