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How to say something without saying anything.
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It could well have been Roseniors idea of a feeder club model and he spoke with the owner. I've listened to Rosenior a few times before ,and he can sound a bit cringe with the philosophy talk.
He's new in the job at Hull, since November. Probably wants to put his mark. But if Hull City go through a bad patch he'll likely get the bullet. The previous manager Arveladze was was wanted by the owner for a good while and last just 9 months.

If Rosenior got the chop in future, will the next manager be as concerned about the playing style at Dundalk
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White Horse wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:23 pm How to say something without saying anything.
Spot on. Smoke screen. Another read between the lines and listen to what's not being said
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MrTiger99 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:29 pm The main purpose will be to send young prospects that aren’t quite ready for our first team over to you free or charge to give them first team football experience. This will benefit Dundalk as you will be getting players from a top end championship or premier league club for no cost. We’ll also be signing U18 players from around the world and they will develop at Dundalk until they’re ready for the step up, ,
Welcome to the forum MrTiger99.

A major issue would be is what if they aren't good enough? These aren't established championship players we're talking about. They are going to be more or less kids that haven't played senior football. What would the expectation be that the club would be expected to play players.

As fans we want the team to be competitive in the league and get through a could of rounds in Europe.
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Louth4sam wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:50 pm
MrTiger99 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:29 pm The main purpose will be to send young prospects that aren’t quite ready for our first team over to you free or charge to give them first team football experience. This will benefit Dundalk as you will be getting players from a top end championship or premier league club for no cost. We’ll also be signing U18 players from around the world and they will develop at Dundalk until they’re ready for the step up, ,
Welcome to the forum MrTiger99.

A major issue would be is what if they aren't good enough? These aren't established championship players we're talking about. They are going to be more or less kids that haven't played senior football. What would the expectation be that the club would be expected to play players.

As fans we want the team to be competitive in the league and get through a could of rounds in Europe.
Thank you! :)

I’m hoping we would only send players to you if both club hierarchy's thought they would be capable of making that step up, like I said I think it only works if it’s beneficial to both clubs.

We have a few players in the LOI currently which are playing well and we have a history of young talent coming through our ranks; Tom Cairney, Liam Cooper, Harry Maguire, Andrew Robertson, Daniel James, Sam Clucas, Jarrod Bowen, Keane Lewis Potter to name a few. Obviously not every player will work out but that happens with normal loans/signings too.
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I think the comments about playing style have been taken out of context

“What's really important to us is that we've found a club in Dundalk, that have similar values and footballing identity.”

To me that sounds like Dundalk are already a good fit in terms of playing style and philosophy rather than we’re going to change how you play to match us
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I think that’s a very welcome statement by the owners . They’ve given a lengthy statement and IMO it’s quite clear. Remember all this panic started with Gerry Malone’s tweet and increased rapidly with the Hull manager’s comments. Yes we know Hull are interested and the owners statement practically says so. However , maybe we all need to take a deep breath and calm down. ( I’m as guilty of this as anybody, asking if the owners will be making a killing and I feel embarrassed about that post now).
“ The truth is that not only are we not desperate to sell the club, but we are not trying to sell the club at all. The club is financially stable, we are progressing, we have qualified for Europe, and this is only the start of our second season.

However, we need to be honest about our limitations. We will need partners if we wish to achieve our goal of maintaining a strong team on the pitch while simultaneously modernising Oriel Park.”

It’s in black and white here lads. They don’t want to sell the club but need investment to progress on the field and for OP too.
I think it shouldn’t be overlooked that the THREE owners put their names to this statement.
I suppose we‘ll just have to trust SS and AC when that say they have only the best intentions for the club’s future in mind.
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I see Shelbourne applied for golden visa investment scheme before the closure last week. Whether anything will come off it. DCC won't be supporting the Tolka redevelopment.
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MrTiger99 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:18 pm
Louth4sam wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:50 pm
MrTiger99 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:29 pm The main purpose will be to send young prospects that aren’t quite ready for our first team over to you free or charge to give them first team football experience. This will benefit Dundalk as you will be getting players from a top end championship or premier league club for no cost. We’ll also be signing U18 players from around the world and they will develop at Dundalk until they’re ready for the step up, ,
Welcome to the forum MrTiger99.

A major issue would be is what if they aren't good enough? These aren't established championship players we're talking about. They are going to be more or less kids that haven't played senior football. What would the expectation be that the club would be expected to play players.

As fans we want the team to be competitive in the league and get through a could of rounds in Europe.
Thank you! :)

I’m hoping we would only send players to you if both club hierarchy's thought they would be capable of making that step up, like I said I think it only works if it’s beneficial to both clubs.

We have a few players in the LOI currently which are playing well and we have a history of young talent coming through our ranks; Tom Cairney, Liam Cooper, Harry Maguire, Andrew Robertson, Daniel James, Sam Clucas, Jarrod Bowen, Keane Lewis Potter to name a few. Obviously not every player will work out but that happens with normal loans/signings too.
Is Harry Maguire really someone worth bragging about
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The Hull City owner was at Pats Shels game sat with all Shels directors
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Shels are welcome to them, obviously. I mean in any meaningful way we're a bigger club than Hull City. Show us your trophy case. Seriously. (I mean no disrespect to the Hull fans, MrTiger99 and others. They have great supporters and proximity to the EPL means they've loads more cash than us, but we'll do us, you do you.)

An absolute nonsense of an idea, the way it's being presented. Similar playing style? I don't think our manager knows what fukking style we're playing. We're absolutely brutal with players who aren't good enough for Millwall, Boro, West Brom and Swansea, I'm not sure how swapping those lads for ones who aren't good enough for Hull is going to improve things.
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seand wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:27 am Shels are welcome to them, obviously. I mean in any meaningful way we're a bigger club than Hull City. Show us your trophy case. Seriously. (I mean no disrespect to the Hull fans, MrTiger99 and others. They have great supporters and proximity to the EPL means they've loads more cash than us, but we'll do us, you do you.)

An absolute nonsense of an idea, the way it's being presented. Similar playing style? I don't think our manager knows what fukking style we're playing. We're absolutely brutal with players who aren't good enough for Millwall, Boro, West Brom and Swansea, I'm not sure how swapping those lads for ones who aren't good enough for Hull is going to improve things.
The same manager who got us finishing 3rd and into Europe after starting from scratch.
I agree 2 poor performances but it's the start of the season. Some of our best players ever weren't "good enough" for England/Scotland.. O Donnell, Hoban, McEleney, Duffy

Chris shields was arguing with fans in his first season
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seand wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:27 am Shels are welcome to them, obviously. I mean in any meaningful way we're a bigger club than Hull City. Show us your trophy case. Seriously. (I mean no disrespect to the Hull fans, MrTiger99 and others. They have great supporters and proximity to the EPL means they've loads more cash than us, but we'll do us, you do you.)

An absolute nonsense of an idea, the way it's being presented. Similar playing style? I don't think our manager knows what fukking style we're playing. We're absolutely brutal with players who aren't good enough for Millwall, Boro, West Brom and Swansea, I'm not sure how swapping those lads for ones who aren't good enough for Hull is going to improve things.
I’ll bite my lip as I’m just a visitor but if you really think Dundalk FC are bigger than Hull City you need help haha
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MrTiger99 wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:07 am
seand wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:27 am Shels are welcome to them, obviously. I mean in any meaningful way we're a bigger club than Hull City. Show us your trophy case. Seriously. (I mean no disrespect to the Hull fans, MrTiger99 and others. They have great supporters and proximity to the EPL means they've loads more cash than us, but we'll do us, you do you.)

An absolute nonsense of an idea, the way it's being presented. Similar playing style? I don't think our manager knows what fukking style we're playing. We're absolutely brutal with players who aren't good enough for Millwall, Boro, West Brom and Swansea, I'm not sure how swapping those lads for ones who aren't good enough for Hull is going to improve things.
I’ll bite my lip as I’m just a visitor but if you really think Dundalk FC are bigger than Hull City you need help haha
ha , of course you're right.
a small percentage of people will be unhappy unless any owner has direct lineage back to louth

it's easily dealt with, new owners need to throw some red meat to the ones that don't know about football .
regardless of qualification or skill , ensure high profile ex club players have key rolls and they'll generally quiten down . as soon as chris shields becomes available , get him in as an electrician or program seller , physio etc . That type of thing essential .
or just ignore the complainers . ( although would be great to get shields back !)

this is huge opportunity for the club, ignore the backward ' no outsiders ' stuff
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https://twitter.com/matthughesdm/status ... B_GD5RHKEg

Daily Mail ( never a friend of Ireland I know ) reporting that Bournemouth owner is one of the 3 parties interested in investing . Must be the American one that’s rumoured
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