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Shedtillwedie wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:04 am
Philistine wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:00 pm
Shedtillwedie wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:49 pm

In fairness to BA, he seems like a determined individual and comes across like he will get things done. He has done some quick wins around the ground (obviously a lot more to come), and has dispensed of what appears to a less than functional ops department. Attention will now turn to getting on the field matters right after stabilising the off the field mess.

I think regardless of what happens these next 2 games, SOD time is up. The players seem to have completely downed tools and look lost.

Wonder if thats why Garts himself was with King Kenny in the Crowne Plaza yesterday morning................................................................
I'm sure the 2 lads have probably kept in touch and met up etc over last 4 years, nothing to see here (hope I'm wrong mind!)
You have been wrong about quite a lot MR C, I mean P.......
You should wanna be very very careful making stupid comments like this one.

Big trouble because you are wrong of course.
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A lot of new members posting on OW. Always happens when the shit hits the fan…
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Martin Lawlor80 wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:13 pm A lot of new members posting on OW. Always happens when the shit hits the fan…
True words indeed.

Easier to register under new name than admit to a change of heart.
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ODonnell needs to take responsibility for on pitch matters and stop blaming the off field problems, for 18 months now we have been terrible to watch. Our shape changes week in week out to no effect, players haven’t a clue what they are supposed to be doing, mass substitutes in the hope of a miracle, letting go of our best players ….. it’s shocking stuff. We aren’t going to change our players for the rest of the season so we need to change something, the only hope for the rest of the season is fresh team tactics and mentality so please o Donnell do us all a favour and leave.
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Midfield11 wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:33 pm
ODonnell needs to take responsibility for on pitch matters and stop blaming the off field problems, for 18 months now we have been terrible to watch. Our shape changes week in week out to no effect, players haven’t a clue what they are supposed to be doing, mass substitutes in the hope of a miracle, letting go of our best players ….. it’s shocking stuff. We aren’t going to change our players for the rest of the season so we need to change something, the only hope for the rest of the season is fresh team tactics and mentality so please o Donnell do us all a favour and leave.
If the off field situation is a mess and you have no money or budget then you have to let go of our best players who are usually our highest earners.
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niall_hearty2000 wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:45 pm
Midfield11 wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:33 pm
ODonnell needs to take responsibility for on pitch matters and stop blaming the off field problems, for 18 months now we have been terrible to watch. Our shape changes week in week out to no effect, players haven’t a clue what they are supposed to be doing, mass substitutes in the hope of a miracle, letting go of our best players ….. it’s shocking stuff. We aren’t going to change our players for the rest of the season so we need to change something, the only hope for the rest of the season is fresh team tactics and mentality so please o Donnell do us all a favour and leave.
If the off field situation is a mess and you have no money or budget then you have to let go of our best players who are usually our highest earners.
And offer your two mates who are constantly injured new contracts!!!, that just doesn’t make sense Niall
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" This club came sixth with a plethora of players before I came "

at this point of the season, when you risk a demoralised team DO NOT SLAG THE SQUAD OFF IN THE MEDIA not to mention that 6th was actually decent compared to the relegation battle the few months before .

and by the way , DO NOT SAY THE PITCH WILL GET YOU INJURED , and then complain about the players you can attract.

Its maybe time to start admitting that he wasn't experienced enough ( two seasons at any senior coaching level) when he came in. he was in the middle of an apprenticeship that was going well, but was hired as the "finished article" by ( now obviously ) clueless former owners because of his playing ability

yes he and fillipo , both won FAI cups. Cant take that away form them. but that doesn't prove you're a great manger.

sacking him should not be rushed. avoid the death spiral of manager appointment nonsense. there will be hundreds of takers but few with the ability and stomach for a relegation battle

if he can avoid media metldowns. maybe he can stay by urgently convincing some highly experienced back room staff to join and clearing out any chancers. coaching and management pedigree needed now AND no one "building their next career move".
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niall_hearty2000 wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:45 pm
Midfield11 wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:33 pm
ODonnell needs to take responsibility for on pitch matters and stop blaming the off field problems, for 18 months now we have been terrible to watch. Our shape changes week in week out to no effect, players haven’t a clue what they are supposed to be doing, mass substitutes in the hope of a miracle, letting go of our best players ….. it’s shocking stuff. We aren’t going to change our players for the rest of the season so we need to change something, the only hope for the rest of the season is fresh team tactics and mentality so please o Donnell do us all a favour and leave.
If the off field situation is a mess and you have no money or budget then you have to let go of our best players who are usually our highest earners.
They paid a fee for Jamie Gullan and Ross Munro. It was unusual in other years that would be paying any fees.
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Folks, it does come to play that SOD leaves in April, I hope we have plans and funds to deal with his replacement. In our condition its not exactly a massively attractive job at the minute, and who is out there also?
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mike wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:38 pm Folks, it does come to play that SOD leaves in April, I hope we have plans and funds to deal with his replacement. In our condition its not exactly a massively attractive job at the minute, and who is out there also?
tons of applicants likely

something like an enthusiastic gary cronin type, with extremely experienced dog fighters in the backroom

no ex player looking to earn stripes nonsense , no matter how good they were . not back to do the electrics or plumbing as they're not qualified . and not back as coaches until qualified

still think sod needs a run of first phase , but if defeat on monday . a plan b c and d essential
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southerncomfort wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:04 pm
mike wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:38 pm Folks, it does come to play that SOD leaves in April, I hope we have plans and funds to deal with his replacement. In our condition its not exactly a massively attractive job at the minute, and who is out there also?
tons of applicants likely

something like an enthusiastic gary cronin type, with extremely experienced dog fighters in the backroom

no ex player looking to earn stripes nonsense , no matter how good they were . not back to do the electrics or plumbing as they're not qualified . and not back as coaches until qualified

still think sod needs a run of first phase , but if defeat on monday . a plan b c and d essential
Cork City didn't get tons of applicants last year after sacking Colin Healy. Liam Buckley who was took Dof took over ,and then Richie Holland for the last few games.

With the debt at the Club , Aincough is probaly holding back on sacking O Donnell for another while.
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Richie87 wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:35 pm
southerncomfort wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:04 pm
mike wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:38 pm Folks, it does come to play that SOD leaves in April, I hope we have plans and funds to deal with his replacement. In our condition its not exactly a massively attractive job at the minute, and who is out there also?
tons of applicants likely

something like an enthusiastic gary cronin type, with extremely experienced dog fighters in the backroom

no ex player looking to earn stripes nonsense , no matter how good they were . not back to do the electrics or plumbing as they're not qualified . and not back as coaches until qualified

still think sod needs a run of first phase , but if defeat on monday . a plan b c and d essential
Cork City didn't get tons of applicants last year after sacking Colin Healy. Liam Buckley who was took Dof took over ,and then Richie Holland for the last few games.

With the debt at the Club , Aincough is probaly holding back on sacking O Donnell for another while.
it's an attractive role regardless, there'll be significant interest , take the point about cork but being able to be based on east coast boosts applicants significantly .

surprised if they're not already in informal talks with a new ' interim' team in advance of an application process . hopefully it turns before that's needed
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southerncomfort wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:55 pm
Richie87 wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:35 pm
southerncomfort wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:04 pm

tons of applicants likely

something like an enthusiastic gary cronin type, with extremely experienced dog fighters in the backroom

no ex player looking to earn stripes nonsense , no matter how good they were . not back to do the electrics or plumbing as they're not qualified . and not back as coaches until qualified

still think sod needs a run of first phase , but if defeat on monday . a plan b c and d essential
Cork City didn't get tons of applicants last year after sacking Colin Healy. Liam Buckley who was took Dof took over ,and then Richie Holland for the last few games.

With the debt at the Club , Aincough is probaly holding back on sacking O Donnell for another while.
it's an attractive role regardless, there'll be significant interest , take the point about cork but being able to be based on east coast boosts applicants significantly .

surprised if they're not already in informal talks with a new ' interim' team in advance of an application process . hopefully it turns before that's needed
Cork City would have seemed a good job even if they were in a poor position. A decent ground for LOI standards with average of 5 or 6k. A owner worth over 40 million in Dermot Usher.

Being on the East coast has advantages, but also disadvantages ,as the Pats job could also be available soon. If Dundalk or Pats were going for the same manager. it would be Pats,
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southerncomfort wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:04 pm
mike wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:38 pm Folks, it does come to play that SOD leaves in April, I hope we have plans and funds to deal with his replacement. In our condition its not exactly a massively attractive job at the minute, and who is out there also?
tons of applicants likely

something like an enthusiastic gary cronin type, with extremely experienced dog fighters in the backroom

no ex player looking to earn stripes nonsense , no matter how good they were . not back to do the electrics or plumbing as they're not qualified . and not back as coaches until qualified

still think sod needs a run of first phase , but if defeat on monday . a plan b c and d essential
As ever there will be multiple applicants, but the point remains, who is out there with LOI Exp that we need?

Look, its obv not great at the minute and a lot of anger towards SOD, and I get that, my own view is it was 'almost' unforgiveable to initiate that row with Hoban, should have left well alone, but we are where we are.

Word on street is if we don't beat Drogs, he could be gone, in cold light of day a lot would think its fair he goes then, don't ask me why, I just think we should stick with him a little longer, not saying I think he will turn it around, I hope he can.
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